I use the proposed Global 80. I’m curious if the Global 100 was actually recommended to anyone by their wizard? The main attraction of Global 80 for me was to have some real estate (5%) in there.
I’ve been wondering if I should go to Global 100 but I haven’t had the time to check how those two have performed when compared to each other and their tracking indices.
Take care what your intent is, to have 15% RE included.
I had G80 too, thinking RE would reduce volatility/risk somewhat, which is what Global 80 is sold for (“less risk than Global 100” for example).
In 2020 RE tanked even more than shares (-50%), and are a long way away from previous highs (still -15 to -30%).
(Something similar happened to a RE fund I had in 2008, btw, can’t say if that was normal in that crash (all RE funds) or bad fund choice)
I’m done with RE funds, compared to stocks - less profits in good times, more losses in bad times.
The Viac RE ETF’s are also funds of funds or REITs, which I don’t feel too comfortable with, just too opaque, each additional level will take their cut.
An ETF of a defined basket of shares is just more transparent.
Just my 2 cents.
Excellent points, thank you. I actually got burnt with a REIT some years ago. I need to look more into the Global 80 positions. There is another downside to this strategy and that is the 5% of gold which I’m not a huge fan of.
@LeStache I also looked into having some RE exposure in Viac with a custom allocation but in the end I settled for their global 100 strategy.
One of the reason was that the swiss RE funds (if they directly own their assets) are already relatively tax-efficient so it’s probably better to buy them on IB if you want and free up some tax-free space inside the 3a for more stocks.
Of course simplicity (or laziness if you want ) was also a big factor for me in favor of a non-custom allocation
I copied @Joey’s portfolio from here and it’s done reasonably well for me. Very similar performance to Global100, I let it and a Global100 portfolio run side by side for the entire 2020, and the individual just barely outperformed Global100.
As 40% needs to be CHF denominated, I thought to just take the plunge and put it in stuff that’s actually trading in CHF rather than do currency hedging. I can try to soften this home-bias in my non-3a stock portfolio.
As for the same performance of G100, that I’ve only found out at the end of last year
But yeah, it might be time to re-evaluate the allocation options that VIAC offers, I had set it up over a year ago and haven’t paid it any more mind since.
G100 seems uncomplicated, but in the background you have alot more funds, each with there own currencies (CAD, JPY, etc.) this I am trying to simplify (hidden currency exchange fees still a thing? 0.75%) now by leaving out canada and asia pacific. Also G100 has a large amount of SMI which I dont like.
Regarding VIAC and the avaible funds. On my side, I am missing CSIF (CH) III Equity World ex CH Quality - Pension Fund which is available at finpension. I asked them if they had some plan to had such fund but apparently, they have more demands for China based ones. However, they would consider it if the demand is enough. Therefore, if any of you is interested, do not hesitate to bug them with it!
I have my 3rd pillar in VIAC as well. Initially I did not pay much attention about their asset allocation because it was not much money. But year after year it is starting to be a big chunk of my money.
Currently I have 1/3 in VIAC global-100 (Credit Suisse) and 2/3 in mutual funds with managers.
I see that in VIAC we have also the “Individual strategy” option. Is global-100 good enough or could it be easily improve by the “Individual strategy”?
Thanks
The viac global 100 allocation is far from MSCI world allocation and invest 40% into SMI or SPI.
You select the custom strategy to have a more balanced portfolio.
I tend to consider the global strategies good enough, while the individual strategies have more use if you are trying to optimize where you hold which assets between taxable and 3a accounts.
40% exposure to CH sounds like too much. When I will have a better understanding I will switch to “individual strategy” and get more MSCI world exposure. Thanks
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