Can’t you set it to bridge mode and use your own router behinde the loan device? Isn’t the router also limited because it only has one 10Gbit inlet but only four 1Gbit outlets?
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With the newest sunrise(/yallo) fiber box you cannot. At least it has a 10gbit lan port, but overall it’s a terrible very restricted device.
I’m thinking about trying to get my own router to work unofficially without any support from sunrise
Or maybe switch to Galaxus, save some bucks per month and only pay 80 once for the Zyxel 
would have preferred an Fritzbox tho
is the newest one this huge monstrum? I got one of these and it works fine for me. But I totally agree, skipping the ISP router completely would be better
Don’t think so; at least by default, https://test-ipv6.com/ says “No IPv6 address detected”.
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Slightly off-topic, but does anyone know if the choice of provider makes a difference for a new construction?
Currently in the process of building a semi-detached house, and I was thinking to go with Init7 to have the 25Gbit infra setup even if I don’t use it (at least for now). Does it make any difference? I’m not actually sure how the whole wiring up is handled, but based on what I’ve read I would trust Init to do a good job a lot more than a cheap operator.
So far I have had Salt 10Gbit at my flat for years now, without issues, and I don’t really need any fancy features (although I guess it might change if I want to go into home automation?).
No. It is shared infrastructure that goes to your home.
the choice of ISP provider has no impact on home automation, eben 100mbit connection is more than enough for the few things you need to do remotely.
You can anyway add your own router behind the one provided by the ISP should you ever face any limitations.
I’d rather make sure that you have enough ethernet ports in each room of the house with at least CAT 7 (for 10 Gbps) or 8.1 (for 25 Gbps).
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Can you actually chose? In my understanding, you’ll be hooked up to the existing infrastructure, which may or may not be owned by the providers you can sign-up for.
What do you consider as home automation? Something like KNX is literally sending 0 and 1’s around, and bringing controlling or monitoring online shouldn’t require too demanding on the available speed, either.
That’s already out there? Too late for me, don’t even think current external infrastructure would support it (well, nor my internal one, for that matter).
I was thinking more in terms of local subnets, DMZs, … The Salt box cannot even set the DNS.
But you’re right, I can always put my modem in bridge mode and use whatever I want.
Ha, I thought it would be the ISP doing all the initial work (fiber to the street, OTP box), even if it’s then shared. But apparently it would be the energy network provider, in my case Romande Énergie. So no choices there.
Thanks!
It depends where you are. Could be Swisscom or local network. But since it doesn’t make sense to put 5 different fiber lines for 5 providers, only one does it and others lease the lines to provide services.
For newbuilds as of now, you always get hooked up on the Swisscom fibre infrastructure if you are in a somewhat populated area. Current fibre technically supports way more than 25Gbit (Japan sets new internet speed record of 125,000 gigabytes per second — 4 million times faster than average US speeds | Live Science), it’s just the hardware (optics) that is not (cheaply) available.
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I’ve come to the conclusion that I wouldn’t ever really notice an internet connection speed above 1Gbit/s, so I wouldn’t benefit from 10Gbit/s offers. In addition, I didn’t notice that Init7 has lowered the price of their entry-level offer Easy7 at the start of the year to 44.–/month.
So for my 10 year Init7 anniversary I’m downgrading from Fiber7 to Easy7 and save 249.–/year. While I can’t choose my own router anymore, I don’t use any fancy router features anyway and I’ll just switch my current mesh router to access point mode and plug it into the new router, done. And I get to stay with Init7, which is worth the slight premium compared to other offers.
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In case you’re not aware, Easy7 uses CGNAT for IPv4, unlike Fiber7 where you get a public (dynamic) IPv4 address. It may or may not matter to you but it’s good to at least be aware of this difference.
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Thanks, yes I saw that. I have no need for my LAN devices to be accessible from the outside, which is probably the most important drawback of CGNAT.
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These days the personal plan of tailscale does the job when a VPN access is needed. There are a couple of competitors, too but I only know tailscale.
We pay 10.- a month for top speed 5g but you have to take on a one-off purchase of a 5g router. There’s some detailed instructions on Preispirat for the ones interested.
I pay around 10 CHF as well for a 5G SIM, but I use an “old” 5G smartphone for the WiFi.
I was considering buying a 5G Wifi Sim router, which costs around 100-120 CHF used (Xiaomi, ZTE). But it’s bigger and slightly harder to configure.
Also I can’t quantify how much my internet speed would improve with a proper router. Currently with the smartphone I get around 30 Mbit/s, if not much lower sometimes. I feel the antenna is the issue, not the smartphone as with 5G it is supposed to go 10x the speed I’m getting (and I’m in the city center).
Maybe some of you have experience about this.
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Your problem might be thst the old smartphone provides the clients with 2.4GHz WiFi only and this might even be configurable in the settings of the 5G smartphone.
You would probably get more than that wit a router that is ony capable of 4G but which has decent WiFi antennas.
What does a speedtest result on the 5G smartphone look like?
I invested in a used high end 5g router and I get between 500 and 800mbit. I used 4g beforehand with 0 incremental monthly cost to my mobile subscription and got 70-120mbit. And it worked mostly, but never exceptionally well (streaming, home office).
It’s again, as in my previous post in a different thread, a realization of: spending where it matters (minimalism>frugalism).
One thing you could try is using the phone with USB tethering to a PC and see if that is faster. If so, you could use an old PC as a router.