the choice of ISP provider has no impact on home automation, eben 100mbit connection is more than enough for the few things you need to do remotely.
You can anyway add your own router behind the one provided by the ISP should you ever face any limitations.
I’d rather make sure that you have enough ethernet ports in each room of the house with at least CAT 7 (for 10 Gbps) or 8.1 (for 25 Gbps).
I was thinking more in terms of local subnets, DMZs, … The Salt box cannot even set the DNS.
But you’re right, I can always put my modem in bridge mode and use whatever I want.
Ha, I thought it would be the ISP doing all the initial work (fiber to the street, OTP box), even if it’s then shared. But apparently it would be the energy network provider, in my case Romande Énergie. So no choices there.
Thanks!
It depends where you are. Could be Swisscom or local network. But since it doesn’t make sense to put 5 different fiber lines for 5 providers, only one does it and others lease the lines to provide services.
I’ve come to the conclusion that I wouldn’t ever really notice an internet connection speed above 1Gbit/s, so I wouldn’t benefit from 10Gbit/s offers. In addition, I didn’t notice that Init7 has lowered the price of their entry-level offer Easy7 at the start of the year to 44.–/month.
So for my 10 year Init7 anniversary I’m downgrading from Fiber7 to Easy7 and save 249.–/year. While I can’t choose my own router anymore, I don’t use any fancy router features anyway and I’ll just switch my current mesh router to access point mode and plug it into the new router, done. And I get to stay with Init7, which is worth the slight premium compared to other offers.
In case you’re not aware, Easy7 uses CGNAT for IPv4, unlike Fiber7 where you get a public (dynamic) IPv4 address. It may or may not matter to you but it’s good to at least be aware of this difference.
Thanks, yes I saw that. I have no need for my LAN devices to be accessible from the outside, which is probably the most important drawback of CGNAT.
These days the personal plan of tailscale does the job when a VPN access is needed. There are a couple of competitors, too but I only know tailscale.
We pay 10.- a month for top speed 5g but you have to take on a one-off purchase of a 5g router. There’s some detailed instructions on Preispirat for the ones interested.
I pay around 10 CHF as well for a 5G SIM, but I use an “old” 5G smartphone for the WiFi.
I was considering buying a 5G Wifi Sim router, which costs around 100-120 CHF used (Xiaomi, ZTE). But it’s bigger and slightly harder to configure.
Also I can’t quantify how much my internet speed would improve with a proper router. Currently with the smartphone I get around 30 Mbit/s, if not much lower sometimes. I feel the antenna is the issue, not the smartphone as with 5G it is supposed to go 10x the speed I’m getting (and I’m in the city center).
Maybe some of you have experience about this.
Your problem might be thst the old smartphone provides the clients with 2.4GHz WiFi only and this might even be configurable in the settings of the 5G smartphone.
You would probably get more than that wit a router that is ony capable of 4G but which has decent WiFi antennas.
What does a speedtest result on the 5G smartphone look like?
I invested in a used high end 5g router and I get between 500 and 800mbit. I used 4g beforehand with 0 incremental monthly cost to my mobile subscription and got 70-120mbit. And it worked mostly, but never exceptionally well (streaming, home office).
It’s again, as in my previous post in a different thread, a realization of: spending where it matters (minimalism>frugalism).
One thing you could try is using the phone with USB tethering to a PC and see if that is faster. If so, you could use an old PC as a router.
Just tested. Both the “old smartphone” and the “new smartphone” connected using WiFi from the first don’t go above 50 Mbps. When the situation is bad is even 5 Mbps.
Forcing the “old smartphone” to use 4G I get <20 Mbps.
I can configure in the “old smartphone” either 2.4 GHz or 5.0 GHz. For the testd I’m using the latter.
You think? Even if I run the tests next to the “old smartphone” to get maximum WiFi strength?
Tried this and the results are slightly better, I gain something like 10-20% speed.
From the results I think that maybe even if I have very good signal in the “old smartphone”, the antenna serving the 5G is very busy and can’t deliver much speed. This could be as I live in a city and hundreds of people could be connected to the same Salt antenna at the same time.
Thanks everyone for your input!
PS: as I was wrapping up this long post I did a last test and now the speed is 300 Mbps (tethering and WiFi using the old smartphone).
So random, so unreliable 
The above is getting worse (<2 Mbps) I’m looking for a cable internet provider.
I’m mostly looking at cheap providers like Yallo or Galaxus, but
Is it a technique that they pretend you only have 10Gbps available, so you have to pay more?
For my daily use I just need 50 Mbps, so even a subscription capped at 300-500 Mbps would be totally fine (which both Yallo and Galaxus appear to have, but conveniently hide).
Well, if you already have a mobile phone subscription, then you get your home connection ‘for free’. With fiber, you have to pay for another connection.
And some of us cannot get fibre. I get about 18Mb/s in the vineyards. 5G is much faster.
But TBH, 18mb/s is actually largely sufficient if you are not streaming 4k in parrellel.
With FTTH the fibre is used only by you. It costs the ISP the same whether you do 100 Mbit/s or 1 Gbit/s via the fiber which is only used by you. And if the ISP only uses 10 Gbit/s ports on his side as standard anyway, then it costs the provider the same whether you receive 10 Gbit/s or 100 Mbit/s. So there’s no point in giving you discounts and throttling the speed. Providers like Swisscom do this to appeal to different target groups, but it’s actually pointless.
Of course, you could argue that a 10 Gbit/s customer makes peering more expensive, requires more upstream bandwidth, more backbone, and so on, but that doesn’t make much difference. Whether someone downloads a 50 GB game via 100 Mbit/s or 10 Gbit/s, the data volume is the same at the end of the month, and it’s spread across thousands of customers anyway.
And most people overestimate what they actually need anyway. For example: Netflix requires only between 3 Mbit/s and 15 Mbit/s: https://help.netflix.com/en/node/306
For some ISPs, it makes financial sense to offer different price tiers and artificially create a distinction, whilst for others it makes more sense simply to offer the same thing to everyone…
10 Gbps from the big 3 ISPs is delivered over XGS-PON, and there’s typically a 16-way split ratio, so it’s not really “your fiber”. Segmentation isn’t entirely illogical in this case, even though Salt and Sunrise don’t do it for their FTTH plans.
For P2P fiber you need to go with Init7 and other small ISPs that don’t use passive networks. Then it’s really your 10 (or 25) Gbps link all the way to the point of presence.
This doesn’t say anything about the link speed between the ISP backbone and its PoPs though, which is likely oversubscribed to some extent as well.
This month, I received the annual utility bill (rent for a flat). It lists the following:
CHF 545.95 - Radio- und TV-Gebühren
I asked my landlord what this is. Answer:
Bei den Radio- und TV-Gebühren handelt es sich um Ihren TV-Anschluss. Dieser ist gemäss Sunrise (ehem. UPC) nicht plombiert und steht Ihnen zur Verfügung.
According to Yallo, this should be included in “Yallo Cable”:
Are there any additional fees?
No additional cable connection fee is charged. This is included. For customers who previously paid the cable connection fee separately (e. g. billing of ancillary costs or owner), the fee no longer applies. Please contact your landlord regarding this matter.
I’ve written to the landlord again. I’m curious to see what they’ll say.
I was aware of that, but until now I thought the landlord and Sunrise were sharing this information with each other. Let’s see who made the mistake (Or should I have reported that?).
So, just a reminder for everyone else: If you have a Cablecom (now Sunrise) socket that you don’t need, have it sealed and check your bill. If you have a Sunrise/Yallo (whatever) subscription that requires the TV socket but includes it, check your bill as well.
To some degree this may make sense - I have a 10G fiber lease and no way to actually saturate that connection. My devices tap out at 100Mbit/s (one), 1GBit/s (two) and whatever WiFi7 throughput allows. I will just never saturate that lease 
and I’m sure I’m not the only one with this issue – especially when 10GBit/s consumer devices are still “unobtainium” or rather pricey