Never heard of such side effects. Why does she have to check her blood every 2 days?
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I prefer data over an opinion. Even GPs are not experts in virology or immunology.
With hundreds of millions vacinated across Europe (and loads still not), there should be lots of statistics coming out.
Anyone found a good summary of the vaccination effects (pro and contra) across Europe?
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What are you looking for? There’s loads of data.
At this point seems like thanks to the people who decided against we’ll get measures reintroduced in a few weeks (vaccination isn’t high enough to avoid filing up hospitals, and current variant is not extinguishable due to the 2x contagiousness).
People are making the choice whether they’ll have some prepared immune response when they’ll get infected or will chose to have a naive body.
Still nice to see in eg Zurich that compared to previous waves, the circulation is markedly lower in high vax areas.
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Out of more than 9 million doses vaccinated, Swissmedic has received already 152 reports of adversary reactions affecting the eye. Most are probably mild or only short-term - and I’m convinced that loss of vision such as the case of fedra’s family friend must already be included in the figures. Can’t imagine it to be severely underreported either.
Note that those reports don’t imply causation, they also would need to be higher than the expected baseline occurence. (The amount of side effect on the placebo arm of a trial is a good example of how many there can be).
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which is a very small minority, cause might be unrelated to vaccine. Never mind how bad the virus itself would have been for these people.
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From a very reliable (for me) source (close family member working in Intensive Care in central Switzerland), I have received the status that all intensive care units in central CH and ZH are now full again, due to latest spike in Covid patients.
The 4th wave has hit, and patients in ICU this time are much younger than in the previous waves, and not vaccinated.
Rega has flown numerous repatriation flights from Kosovo recently, but with beds in CH running low now, new patients are now “stuck there”, and will have to make do with the treatment and facilities available there.
And people are hesitant to vaccinate because of 0.02% doses received reporting a side-effect?
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I just don’t get it.
1.9 billion people are fully vaccined, 0.6 billion already got their 1st dose. We have enough data to come to the conclusion that the vaccine is 1000x less dangerous than the virus itself.
True. We also don’t have data on long-term effects of having Corona.
In both short- and long-term it’s a risk assessment between the risk of getting Corona and the risk of vaccination side effects. And all available data so far puts the vaccine as the better option in both cases (and yes, I’m aware people may see that different; I will not engage in that discussion).
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There’s loads of data, but very few, well presented summaries. So like the San Diego hospital image, but then more extensive.
Everybody says ICs are filling up across Europe with non-vaccinated patients. Where’s data to support that? Anything about vaccination vs infection rates? Etc…
not exactly true. There are plenty of longCovid people who, if the status quo persist, will have serious limitations to their quality of life for their lifetime, or until they heal long-covid, or until a treatment is found. no such thing of statistical relevance exists on the vaccine side.
I am quite afraid of of having my stamina cut to barely walking. That’s why i instantly registered for my shots.
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But it’s much much much less likely
Besides, getting the vaccination also helps protect other people, like those that are vulnerable but cannot get vaccinated for medical reason.
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I think many people either aren’t aware of the statistics, or can’t grasp them, or don’t believe them. There is also this problem of the default option (do nothing). If you do nothing, then maybe you won’t get sick and everything will be fine. If you however decide to take the vaccine and it has a severe side effect on you, you will blame yourself. I think people don’t want to make the wrong decision, so they just don’t take any decision.
It’s a well documented phenomenon that the default option (opt in or opt out) has a big inertia and is chosen by many. But how would you make vaccines opt out? You would need to automatically assign a date and place for everybody, and they would have to explicitly cancel it. But probably they would just not show up.
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How much do you like it to be?
Have you followed any news in the last few months?
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It could with some. However one is prevalent and of particular concern right now - and we have vaccines against it that seem to reduce severe (short-term) symptoms significantly.
It is at least quite plausible to assume that a reduction of severity of symptoms through vaccination (which has been well-substantiated) will also reduce long-term consequences of an infection.
What does ETH have to do with it?
They don’t have a medical faculty and they use official government figures for some modelling and calculations, don’t they?
True. It may be lower than anticipated or hoped for. But there is very little (reputable) evidence that the benefits of vaccination don’t outweigh the risks.
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And that annoys you?
To me this is a central point today, to protect those who can’t be vaccinated for multiple reasons (allergy, immunosuppression, old people having only minimal antinody generation after vaccination).
Telling that even vaccinated people can propagate the virus is clearly an anti-vaccination argument. The vaccine is not sterilizing in the sense that vaccinated people can still pass the virus. But vaccinated people have a probability to get contaminated so smaller than unvaccinated people that , even if the probability to propagate the virus through a vaccinated person exist, it is not relevant compared to the propagation through unvaccinated people.
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There’s a word for that: a troll 
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I really think that it would not have changed anything. The choice to vaccinate is a choice about your health and to accept that you need to vaccinate you have to accept you could die from it (even if the probability is only 0.5%). It is also a trade off between personal freedom (I inject something I do not know in my body) and collective problem (public debt of my country, quality of the education we receive at school or university, quality of the health system in the case I need it). A lot of people is not at ease with such questions and simply decide not to think about it with the assumption the covid is affecting only other people. I must admit that you sleep better by not considering yourself at risk.