No, they both have Swiss web pages, but the first is German, the second German/British. The items get shipped from Germany and the UK respectively. Mifcom writes on their page that they will handle everything, PCSpecialist customer service assured me that they would, but there are some conflicting accounts, for example in their forum.
I’d be happy enough to order from Mifcom, but the RTX 3070 there costs at least 744 CHF, for example, and the 6800, 6800XT and 3080 are all priced above 1000 CHF. Most are out of stock as well.
Hence me looking for alternatives / experiences with vendors.
If I was looking for gaming PC I’d go for Jouleperformance.ch too by now. However I usually assemble my PCs myself and just get the parts from digitec.ch but yeah Graphicscard and CPU availability is very bad right now.
Seems relatively reasonable, it seems that you don’t need to put a GPU in the order and can order them separately. They will even put in the cabling. The same is true for ssds.
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This adds up to around 900 chf without the GPU. I put in the 4x8gb ram because there is some reporting that two single rank ram sticks don’t give the same performance as two dual rank ram sticks or four single rank ram sticks. But I haven’t looked more into it.
I would add a RTX 3070 or RX 6800 to it and a ssd, although I’m not up to speed about them either, Samsung SSDs(non-QLX) are usually good but you pay a premium for the same performance as other ssds. The whole system should be 1500-1600 chf.
Gets me thinking, the problem is indeed the graphics card. If I buy that separately and put it in myself I should get a better price. How difficult you think is it to install a graphics card for someone who has never done that before?
Regarding the mainboard, would a X570 chipset be worth it? More PCIe 4.0 (don’t need), better cooling (do I need that with a Ryzen 5600?), WIFI (that’s missing in your built, right?)
And the processor cooler, do I need an extra one or does one come with the processor?
Interesting, thanks! They don’t have the new Ryzen processors yet and graphic cards are thin on the ground as well. Fantastic quote for a 3080 at Caseking though, 570 EUR! If only it were in stock (delivery date is “unknown”)…
It’s super easy, if you want to check just have a look on YouTube and there are plenty of videos how to build a PC.
In fact I think building is trivial nowadays, and the more difficult part may be the choice of components that are compatible with each other (technology, clearances, etc.)… but even then you could use the configurator and then buy on digitec as someone suggested.
You can tell them which GPU you will buy and they will prepare the cabling. Then it is pretty easy.
Note that there isn’t a ssd either, you would need to add that as well, but that is also pretty easy and should be not much work. (you can also add a ssd on their site, but the ssds seem to be around 20% more expensive than on digitec)
Afterwards you would also need to put windows on a stick and install it.
The B550 is already a pretty high end board. I would recommend to use cable and not wlan, but you can always buy an adapter. In my recommendation, there is already a CPU cooler.
Thanks both! That sounds like a great project for the Christmas break. Now, the only thing needed is to actually be able to buy stuff. Let’s hope that stock levels will improve next week when the partner 6800/6800XT cards hit the market…
20 years ago, when I was young and built my own computers, you had to use jumpers to set certain parameters. If you got some of them wrong, you could fry your entire system.
Static electricity: I’ve never used any bracelet myself, I just take care and “ground” myself by touching something grounded.
Ryzen Motherboards: I am not sure if it’s sitll the case, but if the lot of your MB is “old-ish”, it might not be compatible with the latest CPU and you need an old cpu to update the bios with it or buy a MB with a cpu-less update mode. The manufacturers are bad here since it’s not that clear what lot you buy, but I suppose now they are all updated.
Hard to reach screws: that doesn’t happen anymore I believe
Airflow and beauty: You need to comb your cables to make it beautiful/airflow-y
Just a note because we talked about 2 / 4 ram sticks earlier in this thread: Ryzen 5000 series seems to perform better with 4 sticks over 2 based on multiple independent tests (even though the platform does not support Quad-Channel memory).
Thus, I will probably go for 4x8 GB. But as I said previously I’m waiting for January/February because of the availability of parts. It’s not looking good right now and maybe I will wait even longer.
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