Should I buy TSLA shares?

Personally I hate loud tuned cars or motorcycles. Sometimes you can hear them from a mile away. Also you’re trying to sleep, but some young ones are revving their BMWs. I’m all for personal freedoms, I’m not a regulations kind of guy. Live and let live. But noisy vehicles violate the freedom of others. I should have the freedom from loud noises, if only they are avoidable. It’s hard to choose a place to live away from the streets. You never really know how noisy it gets until you’ve lived there for a while.

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A flap exhaust. Sexy.

You mentioned AMG before, so let me guess… hmmm… C63?

Believe me - me too! I live close to the street and I hate that when someone is revving like crazy or has artificially tuned car/motorcycle to make it much louder than the regulations (BTW - the cars are becoming more quiet because of that). This is one of the reason that I drive this car normally, without causing heart-attacks 1 km around (yes, it’s possible).

No, mustachian version ;), aka non-real-AMG, which is C43. Perfect daily driver, comfortable/quiet or loud/fast when you want to. BTW - exhaust button is more about the type of the sound, not the loudness.

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How about the thread title: Should I buy a Tesla car? :stuck_out_tongue:

I definitely disagree with you on this. I don’t doubt that you’re driving safely, just that any pleasure you derive from loud motors doesn’t justify the pollution they cause.

Noise pollution has significant effects on the health of people affected by it. I can’t find it right now, but I remember reading even low-level noise (like a far away freeway, or an only somewhat close road) having quite bad effects.

This report [german] (or the one from the year before) estimates that health costs through noise pollution caused by road traffic in 2010 amounted to CHF 600 million. That’s almost half the externalities that they estimate road traffic causes through greenhouse gases.

There is actually quite an interesting noise pollution database that maps onto the swiss govt. map. I was quite surprise by how much noise many residential areas have (often even at night).

So?
It’s pretty bad and a relatively easy thing to fix. There might be worse things out there but this is a low hanging fruit (which is likely not picked because of special interests).

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To stay on topic, here’s a new video of the edgy Australian YouTuber. He made a coming out, he owns 1’000 TSLA shares, which is over 90% of his net worth. His total net worth is over $1’000’000. Gotta admire his confidence.

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I think owning single stocks for fun isn’t a bad thing. If SpaceX had an IPO, I would totally invest 5% of my portfolio in it.

I fully respect your opinion, nevertheless, I’m still very happy with my choice ;). Speaking about noise pollution, the situation will change for the better (for most of the people, not for the car enthusiasts), due to stricter noise regulations. Speaking about air pollution, we could discuss the full impact of electric cars etc., but I don’t want to hijack the thread and go into any flame wars like (ICE vs. electric, AMG vs. real-AMG, AMG vs. BMW, Atari vs. Commodore etc :D).

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well electric car can have nice sound as well, like the porsche Taycan. You just need to fork 500 eur for a mp3 and buy it.

very mustachian!

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It’s weird that there is not a setting to pick the language of pronunciation. I imagine though that it would be tough once you get in countries that doesn’t speak any language you know.

I don’t think we’re there yet. Every language is modeled by a different voice, so imagine hearing one woman tell you “take the second exit to” and the a different voice tells you “Zürcherstrasse”. Anyway I find it useless to know the street names, you rarely see them. I’m really happy with Google Maps. I usually don’t need to look at the screen. When I’m on my bike, I put the volume to max, the phone in my pocket, and it tells me what to do.

Yeah, sometimes it’s funny. I ride on some quiet residential street, there’s a couple walking and suddenly comes the screaming announcement: “IN TWO HUNDRED METERS, TURN RIGHT” :slight_smile:

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Be careful not to be louder than performance cars exhausts :rofl:

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“Highest priced” yes - “most valuable” hardly. :grin:

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I would say that Tesla is more than just an automaker. Their autopilot may make them a taxi and cargo transport company. Their solar and battery technology may make them a utility company.

I know what you’re trying to say, but you need to realize that the current price has been set by buyers who believe that the value of Tesla is higher than that price, and by holders who refused to sell cheaper.

One of Warren Buffett’s most famous quotes (via Benjamin Graham) is, “Price is what you pay; value is what you get.”

By the way, I am really puzzled by the valuation of the Nikola company. They want to produce hydrogen powered trucks (have not yet made any). All the coverage I watched, all the calculations, render hydrogen inferior to battery EVs. Nikola will probably get blasted by Tesla Semi, which should have half the total cost per kilometer.

Musk as crazy as he is, he is also brilliant and keeps on inovating. Tesla is not the classical automaker. They are a serious contender to autonomous cars, moving into assurance, and also have the solar panels and batteries. There is nothing like them in EV and they have great brand recognition. For the long run this is probably more likely to keep growing than crash and burn. At the same time, given the current valuation, you are probably not getting huge returns and are better off investing in VT :slight_smile:

So are Alphabet and Toyota.
At a fraction of the price.

Perhaps it’s the currency used to buy Tesla shares that is too abundant…