I see that there are quite a few members of the forum that are working in the academic sector. In Switzerland the salaries for junior positions (anything before privat docent to my knowledge) are dictated by salary scales specific to the canton you work in.
Despite that, did any of you manage to negotiate financial perks like the employer participating in paying the costs of a SBB GA or anything of the sort? That could be a way of increasing salary progression while following the official scale.
Thanks, yeah I certainly can see myself doing that job for 5-10 years and in that timeline I should comfortably pass the FU money threshold. I just hope lifestyle inflation won’t be too big of a problem.
Just wondering, I see a yearly increase in a lot if not most salary progressions shared here, at the same employer, and not necessarily following a promotion. Is it quite common in Switzerland to obtain a salary increase every year? Do you guys tend to renegotiate on a yearly basis?
To my knowledge, in a private company, if you do not ask you will have nothing.
You have to swap company or accept international mobility to get salary increase.
I can’t believe I have to say this but the generally accepted number representing “nothing” is 0…
In my company the small automatic raise depends on the yearly performance (both employee’s and company’s performance), usual range was 1-5% in the last few years
Interesting!
In my experience, that’s how usually the bonus is determined; the small automatic “0.5-2% raises” are more inflation-linked.
Whatever larger raises happened for me, it was either a promo, role change or/and company change.
What I did see is that some companies also do a “one off” additional payment (some proportion of a monthly salary, e.g. 50%) in times like these past few years (inflation/recession).
Guess in the long term it is cheaper for them than giving everyone a 2-5% raise due to (“transitory”) inflation.
i once was told something along the lines of: life’s like traveling on a train heading straight to hell, however, it’s up to you if you want to travel on the roof of the cars or if you want to do it in style in first class… there’s a couple of gems in there that i only understood years later.
but c’mon, i’d never fly longer than 3hrs in economy with kids…watches and cars, cool collectible items, so why not go for it if you can ?
Most places I worked in had a salary range tied to a position, which maps out salary percentiles for the position profile with the number of years experience the employee has. Think of something similar to the WHO weight growth charts:
Unlike my weight, the salary with these ranges tend to flatten off around 40 - 45 years old. So aged 25 - 35 I would have a seen a pay rise that a) covers inflation, negotiated for the whole staff with union / employee reps, and b) an additional personal component that reflects me moving up in the experience / age axis.
They tend to keep you on the same percentile curve however, unless you push to negotiate or change to a new employer. And their willingness to negotiate depends on whether you already are above their median curve or not. If you are, you pretty much need to move into a new job or take on additional responsibilities and convince them that you should be on a higher salary range.
Big jumps mostly come from new positions … why would they pay significantly more for the same work you have done before for less? Changes in the same position are mostly small, incremental and maybe coupled with a small on-off bonus.
I’ve seen it at my last job where I seemingly was the only one getting more than 125k (besides some managers), they pulled people somewhat over the table up to the way where a guy had to beg for salary raises because he was depending on state support for child care while the company earned almost a million every day. HRs job is to find the best possible person for the lowest possible salary.
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