Poll: how do you implement currency hedging?

How do you implement your currency hedge? Most of us probably do not hedge equity, but for those of you who have bonds in foreign currencies, how do you hedge them back to CHF?

This thread is for a discussion of the implementation method of hedging.

For a discussion on whether to hedge or not, please go to this thread.

  • I buy hedged shares of my ETFs or funds and let them do it
  • I have large currency forward contracts with my broker(s) and renew them with swap contracts every few months
  • I buy structured products (mini-futures, …)
  • I keep open positions on a forex platform and let them roll over every night
  • I do not hedge anything although I have bonds in foreign currencies
  • I do not hedge, and also do not have any bonds in foreign currencies
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Nobody hedging so far, now I understand why the discussion in the other thread moved from “how do you hedge” to “do you hedge” :grinning:

Because VIAC forces me to do it if I want to invest all outside of CH and Frankly. incorporates it in their solutions directly.

I do not currently own foreign bonds but I’d buy a globally diversified fund hedged in CHF if that was my intent.

I both hold a certain percent of global shares in a currency hedged Index fund. This given that hedging or no hedging in the long run was a zero-sum game. The last few years, non hedged had beaten hedged yet things are bound to mean revert. And even if not, there is a certain rebalancing bonus.

Further, I hold hedged bond Index funds. Hedging for bonds in my view is a must; and it is as well a must to diversify beyond CHF bonds.

It made me think. US Government Bonds had a nice anti-correlation to US Stocks. Wouldn’t that potentially be undone by taking an additional (covered) FX position?

And isn’t the focus on hedging securities wrong? Whilst you actually try to hedge your idiosyncratic consumption at Swiss inflation. As always you can only hedge for unexpected changes.

Let me think. Your expected consumption should be hedged for the unexpected local inflation vs unexpected global inflation. Your Portfolio then only has one job: To generate money at an accepted risk. It should have nothing to do with your consumption. If FX hedging inside the portfolio can still improve the return (directly or by decreasing risk which you can lever up again), then it does so regardless of where you spend your money.

Some market neutral long-short of short-term ILBs minus normal Bonds? Not that I would do that, seems expensive.

It makes a lot of sense, but my intent with this thread was to focus on the technical implementation, which I think was never discussed in details on this forum. Many people on this forum disagree that hedging is useful, but this is discussed in the other thread (link in my original post).

I would be very interested to hear if anybody hedged currency themselves instead of with hedged shares and has any experience to share.