Mustachian portfolios

Why so much UK?

What bonds are these?

That‘s just a big corp, that just happens to be from there. I consider bonds 2nd pillar and my member shares in a bank.

Quite a chunk risk, then…

I just ran the numbers (% gain, including dividend):
Overall % gain:

So I’d say there’s no real losers (just yet anyways).

VT is +34% (ex dividend) since June, so I’d say you have some significant losers there.

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I meant losers in the sense of huge loses against what I invested in specific shares. But yes, of course you are right if comparing to VT.

New to the forum, please allow me to understand some basic dynamics for my own benefit.
Having an account with Swissquote & Degiro is there a sensible way in deciding which one to pick if investing in ETFs that are available on both platforms. The simple answer would be to fill in the order form for 5k CHF and compare fees but what I do not quite grasp is that VT is denominated in USD while on Degiro there is the EUR version of the fund. As both should be identical what is the downside in holding it in either USD or EUR? As I would like to put some money in ARK funds which seem to be available at Swissquote only, but read a lot about low-fees at DEGIRO I could use a little help here.

Secondly, is there a point in breaking down VT in all world ex-USA & SP500, I would miss out on everything US based that is not listed on the SP500 right?

Much appreciated


I will only answer to some of your questions as my knowledge is limited :wink:

First of all, on Degiro, you can’t purchase US domiciled ETF such as VT (Vanguard Total World Stock) or ARK ETF. This broker let you only invest in IE (Ireland) domiciled ETF such as VWRL (Vanguard FTSE All-World). Furthermore, VWRL can be purchased on different stock exchange (London Stock Exchange, SIX Swiss Exchange, NYSE Euronext, Deutsche Börse and Borsa Italiana S.p.A.). On Degiro you can purchased VWRL for free if you select the one which is listed on the NYSE Euronext (Amsterdam).

Second of all, on Swissquote you can purchased VT (US ETF) or VWRL (IE ETF) as you wish, but if you purchase VWRL on the SIX Swiss Exchange it will cost you less as it is one of the “ETF Leader” selected by Swissquote with a special price of 9 CHF whatever the amount of your purchase.

Hope this explanation help you a bit.


If anyone is looking for daily updated country weights: SPGM: SPDR® Portfolio MSCI Global Stock Market ETF

Made some rebalancing.

VIAC (24k)
30% World ex CH
30% SPI Extra
20% EM
17% SMI

ValuePension (22.5k)
80% World ex CH
19% EM

IBKR (33k)
100% USA

78.5k invested right now (-1k for cash at Viac/VP), so in total:

55k USA (63.6%)
11.3k CH (14.4%)
9.1k EM (11.0%)
9.1k Developed (11.0%)


So I updated my portfolio to use Avantis ETFs with a small cap value tilt.

Morningstar style box (VIAC+Finpension is approximated with VT):

Target Allocation

Ticker Name Weight
AVUS Avantis U.S. Equity ETF 24.4%
AVUV Avantis U.S. Small Cap Value ETF 29.9%
AVDE Avantis International Equity ETF 12.8%
AVDV Avantis International Small Cap Value ETF 20.1%
AVEM Avantis Emerging Markets Equity ETF 12.8%

Reference is MSCI region weights. Small cap value is 50% of the whole taxable portfolio. Cost is 0.26% per year.

Region Allocation Fund Allocation
Switzerland 22.8% CSIF SMI 15.8%
CSIF SPI Extra 5.9%
CSIF (CH) Equity Switzerland Small & Mid Cap ZB 0.4%
CSIF (CH) Equity Switzerland Large Cap Blue ZB 0.7%
World 32.6% CSIF (CH) III Equity World ex CH Blue - Pension Fund ZB 28.7%
CSIF (CH) III Equity World ex CH Small Cap Blue - Pension Fund DB 3.9%
North America 22.4% CSIF US - Pension Fund 21.1%
CSIF Canada 1.3%
Europe 7.6% CSIF Europe ex CH 7.6%
Asia 4.5% CSIF Pacific ex Japan 1.7%
CSIF Japan 2.8%
Emerging Markets 10.1% CSIF (CH) Equity Emerging Markets Blue DB 4.0%
CSIF Emerging Markets 6.1%
Total 100.0%

Here is my global weighted average portfolio that I am starting with this year. Interested in your feedback :slight_smile:
50% - SWDA - iShares Core MSCI World UCITS ETF
22% - EIMI - iShares Core MSCI EM IMI UCITS ETF
8% - WSML - iShares MSCI World Small Cap UCITS ETF
20% - AGGH - iShares Core Global Aggregate Bond UCITS ETF

Goal is to rebalance on bear trends, selling bonds and buying more stock.

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Why eur hedged, and what’s your expected return? (Looking at same risk bonds in eur, I’m not sure it’s positive, besides the fx volatility for eurchf)

Just because all other ETFs I buy are bought in Euro, since the european exchanges have better volume in Euro. And such bonds, in case of bear markets, tend to have the least fluctuations, even to slight appreciate (although not guaranteed).

That’s not a very compelling argument…the currency you use to buy stock ETFs as explained multiple times is not very important.
If you live or plan to live in a EU country then it can make sense to hold EUR-hedged bonds. If you plan to stay in CH though the EUR-hedging would most likely add cost while also increasing volatility.

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As I said, bonds will be used to balance the portfolio for above market average gains. The portfolio I made is focused only on accumulation. What would be a better bonds alternative if considering retirement in CH?

Cash might more stable with higher returns than equivalent bonds (at the moment, might change at some point). That works great for rebalancing.


Meaning all 20% allocated to bonds to be kept in cash. I thought of that, indeed. But not sure what is the best way.

Why don‘t you buy 100% Vanguard LifeStrategy 80%? Gives you roughly the same but with lower transaction cost and automatic re-balancing.

If you then truly want to tilt towards EM (which I would not do), then just buy an additional EM ETF on Top and hold a bit of cash to offset the 100% Shares in the EM ETF.

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You might want to consider US bonds instead such as USD treasury bonds if you don’t mind too much having USD ETFs. Yield is at least not negative for US bonds…

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