Mortgage rates in Switzerland [2024]

these are employee rates working for a bank.

Our offering has 0.2% margin on Saron. That would most likely mean Oct-March(?) at around 1.2%, April-June at 0.95% and from July onward 0.7%. That’s averaged to around 1.0% over the next 12 months, so it would be better to do a 1Y fixed for that period. What’s beyond one year from now is obviously anyone’s guess, but maybe we go even further down… however my current thinking is that the “insurance premium” of a fixed term is relatively cheap whilst there is not much to be gained with a Saron, unless we end up in a 0% interest environment in the next 2-3 years.

That’s a nice low margin. So you have good options, I guess you just need to decide how long you want to fix for and how much volatility you want.

IMO, fixing <1% is a no-brainer. Sure, rates could go down more, but you’re getting close to 0% so there isn’t that much more saving to be made.

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Imagine having a 0.2% mortgage :smiley:

We had that for almost a decade.

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Am I crazy to be “Happy/Content” with the 1,55 - 10 years offered?

Alternative is everything Saron with UBS and remortgage after a year.

We could well be back to near zero again very soon. Though I think for most people a 0.5% margin is probably the cheapest they can hope for (without a special employee deal for bank employees).

SNB has reduced the interest rates by 25 bps to 1.0% today. After watching the press conference, it sounds to me that they will likely do another 25 bps cut in December, as hinted multiple times (given inflation will stay low and the Swiss Franc strong). 5Y Swaps seem to have dropped a bit intraday as well.

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The whole yield curve up to 6 years dropped almost 10bps today.

The 3 month 25bps and the 1 year 20bps.

Market definitely expecting another cut by 25bps in December.

I thought there was an outside chance they’d go for 50bps today.

Good for Swiss stocks. As it would make bonds even less attractive.

In addition -: Direct Real estate funds are already marketing that 2% yield on direct real estate is much better than bond yields. It’s funny how the comparison is made to bonds and not stocks :slight_smile:

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There was. I think it‘s very likely that they will cut another 0.25% in December and then finally go down to 0.50% in summer 2025.

I agree with you!
UBS and Raiffeisen keep saying on their newsletter that the rates won’t be falling any further :sweat_smile:

When I see a 1Y IRS at 0,65% and the 2Y at 0,53% according to me the SNB calendar the market is pricing today:
December 2024 0,75%
March 2025 0,5%

With a 1 mio SARON mortgage I’m watching this much more than stock prices🤑

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It was Jordan’s last day. Would be a bad message on last/first day of change of guards, even with 0.6% inflation must be a worry, but house not yet on fire to cut 50bp. The wording today pretty much guarantees a cut in Dec and likely again Mar’25, imho. Should see a strong ‘priced-in’ rate moves in coming weeks.

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Yes, I’m looking to switch from SARON to a long term fix if the rates are good!

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How good is good enough?

Do you all see a probability for a 2nd, 3rd inflation wave in the next few years due to the massive MMT globally and price this in to answer above question?

As per UBS article, they expect SARON to be favorable versus fixed term mortgages for longer term horizons. So it looks like fixed rate is like an insurance/ hedge and comes with a cost.

But somehow I think that while taking mortgages it could be beneficial to have some sort of fixed costs to help proper planning of cash flows.

A probability? Sure. I’m not so convinced we’re going there, though, seeing the money funnelled in the stock market. My guess is that it can absorb excess liquidity that then wouldn’t get converted in extra expenses.

I don’t foresee an important future wave of inflation but these things tend to come unexpectedly so I wouldn’t bet my wealth on that.

I already see a 0.7% extra VAT increase in 2026 to finance the 13th month AHV.
As of today, the SNB only expects a 0.7% inflation rate in 2026… probably a bit too low?

In the long term, yes. Though in the short term, I think recession and possibly China exporting deflation might more than balance it out.

I’m asking myself.

Fun story: My negotiated 10-year rate moved between 0.7 and 0.8% few years ago. Took my time, well, why would it move anywhere, if not down? Few months later, the rate was 3x as high. Took most analysts, economist, banks, whatever by suprise. Maybe even some members of this forum.

Bad timing, missed opportunity. Or rather, costly mistake. :woman_shrugging:

1.5% isn’t that bad, could be less then 1% net, if you aren’t anchored on those past rates below 1% :unamused:

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I guess that’s the trade off. On the one hand you expect to pay more in the long run. But on the other, maybe this allows you to be more aggressive in your asset allocation, which in turn will improve expected returns.

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