Golden Handcuffs

  • Warhammer is great indeed
  • MtG I have mixed feelings as I’ve seen people being sucked in this rabbit hole and spending TONS of money
  • Video games are my drug, too!

Here’s another flow way to “spend time” outside of work (on my list one day :smiley:)

I just remembered a time in my younger days when I went clubbing until the early hours in Zurich and had to catch the first train back to work. Thankfully, my apartment was close to work and I could shower and sleep for an hour before going to work because even then I was completely dead. Never again!

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I have no interest in watches at all, but have seen several of this guy’s videos before!

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Man, yeah, the stamina of youth. I was similar, now sleeping after 1:00 is rare (and never ever in a weekday).

Funny, that’s when I’m usually in bed already :slight_smile: .

21:30 in bed
22:00 sleep
03:00 wake up and wonder why I’m not sleepy anymore
06:00 get up more tired than at 03:00
06:30 start work
16:00 finish work

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So true.

I’m just glad for all of you geezers that “0400, getting up to urinate” is not (yet?) part of that schedule.

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Hi!

Late to the party, but I was a similar situation.

Worked at Hooly while it was still a pleasant place, but lately became political / toxic. I was seriously thinking about quitting but was held back by the golden handcuffs: I could do my job easily (at times, it felt I just needed to show up to all the meetings, not more than that, and enough time on the side to do a few hobbies) so it felt “not optimal” to drop the income.

Then I won the lottery. Reorg, position closed. I could have found a new place internally, but I decided to not do it.

When I left, I realized two things: how toxic my situation had become (but I needed to be in denial of it to be able to carry on), and how valuable my time was. I finally had time to do everything I’ve been postponing to do. I started exploring new directions. I got out of the bubble.

It’s obviously a very personal decision, and finances play a huge role. Fear of missing out or even worse, depending on that big salary makes it hard to quit. But if you get a hold on your finances and are on a good path towards your FIRE moment, they you feel much safer about it. You don’t want to get in a situation where you are eaten out by worries.

If the finances are more or less sorted out, getting out of the situation is very liberating. It’s been for me. I haven’t figured out what I will do when I “grow up”, I’m actually experimenting with multiple directions (starting a small business, advising startups/scaleups, angel investing, teaching) but at my own pace and without the stress I have before.

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How long were you in this situation and how did you find it? What did you do day-to-day and how did you feel? Luckily, I don’t have the toxic aspect which probably makes a huge difference.

Anyway, today, I learned of more re-structuring and a few more team members being made redundant, so maybe soon I will not even need to make a decision…

How long? It was a slow process, bit by bit boiling the frog. I was forced to change projects in June 2023, was not happy about it but decided to give it a shot out of loyalty.

As I ramped up on the project, some of the problems appeared immediately, other issues appeared over time as other other parts of the organization shifted. It felt like making one step forward and two steps backwards. It’s impossible to point at a particular event as “crossing the line”.

Also, human nature is good at denying evidence as a survival strategy. Some of the project politics were bad, I would dismiss them as working with some “difficult” individuals (there are obviously some in our business), as a way to cope with it.

My experience was that usually the nonsensical requests usually tend to come and go as people in the projects and priorities change over time, so my approach was to wait for the situation to improve and in the meantime focus on other stuff and interests I had. Some were personal projects, like planning my own finances, others where different projects at work. This way I could still have a positive experience working on stuff that would make rewarding progress, while putting the frustrating parts on the back burner to reduce frustration.

Doing my financial planning was a good choice: it gave me a good sense of where I stand, and how much flexibility I had. It took a lot of the fear of leaving away. Doing the other projects gave me alternatives so that I would not be stuck somewhere I don’t want.

I just hesitated with pulling the plug. Probably inertia, my natural fatalistic approach, thinking that the situation would eventually improve, and the golden handcuffs. Given that things were shifting slowly, there was never a moment that triggered it.

So in the end, the next reorganization provided the opportunity to reconsider things and decide whether to search for a new project internally, or just take the chance and jump. I could probably have found an internal position if I wanted to, but at that point I didn’t even try.

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