and which kind? beans, ground beans, capsules?
Beans. I bought used (and fixed) DeLonghi for 100 chf a year ago. It serves me well. I usually have at least one cappuccino a day.
I have two coffee at home, one is the “regular” on that I use for my morning espresso, usually Segafredo/Lavazza/Kimbo or what I find in offer, usually around 7-10€/kg (if not here in switzerland, e.g. on offer at denner from time to time, I buy in amazon.de or somewhere around Basel -DE or FR)
and one is the “treat” coffee, high end Arabica from Italy that cost usually around 20-25€/kg. This one is mainly used 2-3 times per week, so a kilo lasts for a long time. I am talking about beans.
I think in this way my consumption is very optimized for the price
Speaking of Italy, I’m actually now on vacations in Lago Maggiore area and I keep thinking what kind of beans they are using, so that this cappuccino tastes so good.
Did you drive there (Lago Maggiore)? Or this is another option?
Yes, I went with car to Verbania. It was about 3-3.5h of drive.
It’s the water probably.
Water is horrible here. It tastes like chlorine.
You can ask the barkeeper, not everyone uses the same. I really like Illy and Vergnano, are relatively mild compared to the hardcore italian espresso (more nutty than let’s say Lavazza or Segafredo)
Thanks for the info. I don’t like hardcore espressos neither, I like a mild-and-milky cappucinos, so I’ll give Illy and Vergnano a try.
I am drinking coffee again, and enjoying it, and aiming to keep my consumption below 1kg/month so that beans are never a major expense.
I have started grinding my beans manually with a hand-grinder. That is real work! Much less risk of “I’ll just have another since I’m passing the kichen” or “why not make this one a double…” Feels like a Mustachian solution.
I ordered freshly roasted coffee beans for the first time in a while.
Cafe Noir for 31.20/kg is amazing coffee but a bit too expensive this time. That’s the cost for 2kg including shipping and taxes.
Chronic for 25/kg is what I am trying instead. 2kg for CHF50 and they waive the shipping fee. They say that they roast themselves weekly.
If the Chronic coffee tastes as good as Noir then I’ll have this sorted out.
Coffee is hard!
I have 2kg of freshly roasted coffee from Chronic and to me it tastes pretty meh. It’s fine but I don’t rate it above supermarket coffee. Maybe the reason I like Noir coffee isn’t (just) the freshness but the beans, roast, etc.
I’ll have to think about a new strategy to try in a couple of months when I’ve consumed the current stock.
I’ll share a tip. I found Cafe Trottet, roasted in Switzerland, to have the best quality/price ratio. They sell good origins coffee, and very often have 50% off coupons (eg now for newcomers and for black friday). Free shipping in all CH as well.
There’s no referral link, all the promos are directly on their site!
Soooo glad to find this topic. I’m also a coffee lover (maybe an enthusiast), and seeking my source in the region of Zurich for the best fresh roasted beans.
Cafe Noir (https://www.cafe-noir.ch/) is till now one of my favourite in Zurich city as well, but I think the beans are quite expensive (30 CHF / kg).
I made several tests with cheaper “supermarket beans” (like Chicco d’Oro, Gimoka, Café Royal, Boncampo, Caruso, Exquisito, M-Classic etc.), but the roastery beans were always better. From the taste and freshness definitely. Supermarket beans are roasted, stored, transported for several months, until the consumer buys them. Even I don’t really wait to buy fresh beans till they are in sale, and squirrel them into my pantry.
My frugal coffee set is simple:
- Grinder from Severin
- Moka Express pot from Bialetti
- Brita Waterfilter
- For milk steam/foam I would recommend Delizio Milchschäumer, but I have also a Severin one
Beans are always freshly grinded (not too fine), water is filtered and heated to 90-95 Celsius before the brewing. Put the cooker on half, or the lowest gas level. Fantastic moka (not espresso) experience! Even with foamed milk I could enjoy my coffee an almost perfect cappuccino style
I’m eager for many years to a professional espresso machine and grinder like in the link, but I think this is a super luxury for home.
I was researching other good roasteries around Zurich, and I found these:
I’ll try and test their beans, and give you an update.
I think if you can focus on the quality, and not to the quantity of the coffee, and you can really enjoy the moment to drink it, I don’t really care, if I spend 20-25 CHF in a month for a really tasty and good coffee. (We consume around 500g in a month I think)
Secret tip: try MA ME in the Josefstrasse, Zurich It is definitely worth for a coffee/espresso/latte/cappuccino (I love their flat white, or a latte with an extra shot)
Sadly yes. Coffee and coffee beans could be up to 20-30% more expensive in Zurich city, than outside of Zurich. That is also the reason why I tried to look around for alternatives.
I want to make a visit at the Küng roastery in Winterthur soon. They have several self roasted beans around 24-25 CHF/kg as well (look at their online shop)
I came back to Cafe Noir coffee. It’s my favourite and I enjoy it much more than everything else I tried. I reduced my consumption to the point where I can live with the cost and now I just enjoy it.