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Since you had quite a life here (not a quiet one, though), please take this as a small good-bye present:
- life (noun): a life, ein Leben. Pronunciation: /laɪf/
- “The ocean is full of life.”
- “The captain lived a long and happy life.”
- “Deleted topics? That’s just life.”
- live (verb): to live, leben. Pronunciation: /lɪv/
- “I want to live for 100 years.”
- "Live as a mechanical investor.*
- “Live on forums where you can enjoy life at its fullest.”
- live (adjective): something happening in real-time. Pronunciation: /laɪv/
- “We are experiencing a live topic being deleted.”
- “I like positive free cash flows in earnings calls.”[$]
- “I found a live audience in my posts on this forum.”
Best of luck and see you there on WallStreetBets soon. 
Hope you’ll be back some day.
FWIW: I personally find the mods awesome on this forum.
$ I sneaked that one in for you. There is now live or life in this one.
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There is NO, mister teacher.
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A post was merged into an existing topic: Dutch Lawmakers Approve a 36% Tax on Unrealized Crypto, Stock, and Bond Gains
Auto-spelling correction is quite the thing in life nowadays … 
… I’ll leave this one uncorrected in my post above.
Was going to add something about Nazi spelling corrector, but maybe it’s the wrong live topic for this label, plus I am one myself, sometimes.
As a rebel I also expected you to correct the past tense of sneak to snuck, but apparently you’re a traditional being quite fine with sneaked.
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Really, are you, Herr professor?
As punishment you’d be kind enough to write down some definition, translation, differences and example where to use no and now.
I certainly don’t have that (your) level of English writing, I just found funny I could notice that one while you were teaching.
I can quite live with the quite-not-so-quiet-now-quiet cuban guy’s posts.
FWIW I’m no rebel
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I must have missed the memo; is this thread actually about something, or does it just exist to pad the participation stats on the form?
Oh, and heads up ! Eclipse season is coming, so brace yourselves for the inevitable chaos. 
Oh, you missed the memo?
So sorry to hear.
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Yep. Can a thread about deleted threads be deleted, and if so, can we start a thread about deleted threads about deleted threads about …
Buffer overflow
Segmentation fault
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A post was merged into an existing topic: Dutch Lawmakers Approve a 36% Tax on Unrealized Crypto, Stock, and Bond Gains
Ugh I really don’t want to do this. But ok. Both of these taxes need to establish current value of things in time for them to work. If calculating value doesn’t work, then these taxes don’t work.
And how do you calculate value? Liquid stocks? Just take the last transaction price before closing, right? OK but think about it, how good of a measure is it to just multiply some random price by the number of outstanding shares and conclude that this is the market cap?
Then you have illiquid stock, private stock. Things that don’t trade on a daily basis.
Then you have real estate. Something that doesn’t trade for decades. How do you calculate the value of that? You use some hedonistic blabla methods. It’s all faulty and prone to unfairness.
And then you get art, jewelry, collectibles. This is where you can make some nice write offs to balance out your gains if you’re really rich. Gaming the system becomes a profession.
To finish off, tax is a punishment. It has a chilling effect. What wealth tax is communicating is that wealth is bad. Gains tax → gains are bad. Income tax → income is bad. Don’t work extra hours, don’t save, don’t invest, then no tax for you.
I hate that I have to lay this out to a person in a FIRE forum. But life taught me as much already. Two people can be highly intelligent, argue for hours, and they will not come to an agreement.
But this is how I feel about this particular issue. I will give you the courtesy of not pretending that I don’t. I mean, I realize that it is counter-productive. Taking a deep breath and dialing down is definitely smart. I don’t know, maybe lashing out or being sarcastic is an admission of defeat?
I wonder if you had to deal with situations where you felt like your values are being attacked by legislation and then someone defends them in a polite way. It’s hard to stay calm. Because you know if you do nothing, they will come with worse ideas in the future. And if say something, it probably won’t change anything.
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For me the core of the issue is that we don’t have many here who have ACKSTHUALLY FIREd, we have many wannaFIREs, myself included. This week we (collectively) managed to lose one and alienate another, possibly two.
Let that sink in.
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You don‘t realise that i) fire was not just about saving money, there is a deep psychological side to it that you currently miss and ii) just because you think, something was better to you, doesnt mean it actually was better to you.
would you rather keep Swiss Wealth tax, or get rid of it and in return increase income tax by 25%? Remember, the first 2-3M are the most difficult. What you indicate (lets get rid of wealth tax) makes it even more difficult to even get there at the first place.
As said, we don‘t discuss absolute levels of taxation here, we only talk about means of collecting the funds (and distributing the tax burden)
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I think it’s great that all of you could express your convictions in a free-speech country.
Now you should agree to disagree.
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It doesn’t bring value tho. You know there’s people who disagree with you (you’re intelligent enough to know that while you believe in libertarian theories, it’s not the only valid model, some people put more value to empathy, shared goals, etc and hopefully you respect that).
So what do you expect, that everyone else shuts up? Or that people escalate in invective/calling the other side stupid? I don’t think you’ll convince non libertarian folks this way, and I for sure don’t think I’ll change your world view (wouldn’t want to make you feel too feminin ). So breath and let it go.
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FWIW I personally value the debates, arguments, and different points of view.
So that’s great you could write them down and that there are some public places to share them.
And there’s value even if you won’t never ever convince one another.
For me at least, it helps understand the world I live in, a world of different human beings with different beliefs.
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Another challenge of this board is that there ia not many members that actually invest for 15+ years and have „skin in the game“ experience with crashes…
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Crazy to think the last real crash was about 18 years ago. It has really been a golden time for stock investing the last 2 decades.
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