Just to illustrate this IFR a bit:
in Ticino 997 people died of Covid so far: Home - COVID19 (DSS) - Repubblica e Cantone Ticino
the population of Ticino was 351491 end of 2019: Kanton Tessin – Wikipedia
That gives as absolute lower bound for IFR in Ticino: 0.28%
Agree on that one.
And the holding up the freedom of opinion.
Except that 2+2=4 is not an opinion, it is a fact.
BTW, read the article and noted that there are about 11k deaths in Switzerland, TF (which is btw legitimated by the Epidemiengesetz, just for information) has predicted according to the article 5-15k, if not 20k. Written in the same article. Pretty accurate, don’t you think ? And not at all “doomsday” scenario as the article says.
For the pandemic being over, basically the number of cases and deaths (>50 k per week) worldwide says it is not over. So either Switzerland can completely isolate itself (as NZ and Australia does it), or the pandemic is not over yet.
Errm no, the members are elected between government and the taskforce. If you are not happy, write to your representative. BTW how you imagine the selection. Popular vote ? So everyone can exchange the virus on the polls ?
The problem in situations like these is that, since we’ve taken measures to mitigate infections, we don’t know what an unabated Covid-19 would have done to us and our society. What we know is where we are with the measures we have taken.
The only way to be sure about whether we’re taking the right or wrong steps is to screw up. You know you’ve not done what should have been done when you are in deep shit. You don’t know for sure if you couldn’t have done better when you’re in a good enough shape to ask yourself the question (and we are, in Switzerland, in a pretty darn good shape allowing us the luxury to ask ourselves this question).
The difference, using these two numbers, is 100%. Not being vaccinated, you have 100% more chances to die of Covid (again, using your numbers).
I know it’s hopeless wih you, but got you 1 german expert that said this as an example (feel free to look what Fauci et al say) : https://www.zdf.de/nachrichten/panorama/corona-drosten-immun-impfung-100.html
Nit: that’s not true (J&J and A&Z are viral vector vaccines, that’s not the same thing as an inactivated vaccine and is kinda novel, ~as much as mRNA)
They have been used to vaccinated against ebola though but not at a large scale.
Anyone red this (in German)?: Corona: Warum ihr euch nicht impfen lässt – und unsere Antworten darauf - watson
Brazil is approaching 600’000 deaths attributed to COVID before the end of the year - among only a bit more than 20 million recorded cases.
That’s almost 0.3% of the whole population - with only about 10% having been diagnosed as infected. There will undoubtedly be a high number of unrecorded infections - but the figures certainly don’t look rosy or as close to zero as you imply.
counter: Sinovac’s CoronaVac and Bharat Biotech’s Covaxin are available inactivated virus vaccines (though, as I stated above, Switzerland has chosen other vaccines for its campaign).
Ah I missed that, thanks 
And similar in French: Dix doutes légitimes sur la vaccination, zéro bonne raison de ne pas y aller - Le Temps was pretty good
Nice, thanks for sharing. I just doubt that an anti-vaxxer will take some time to read it from a neutral point of view…
Didn‘t even mean you, was just a reguar statement.
Then don‘t read „lift-wing“ stuff and read sources from the right-wing? There are plenty of persons who are telling you in a neutral way what the advantages and disadvantages are.
Or better: all these guys and gals here who took the time here in this forum to share tons of various sources with the same outcome. In contrary, there is absolutely no reliable source: I clicked and searched for any information you shared.
I think, you just want to hear what you wanna hear, but that‘s ok. I hope for you that you never will have a bad experience with Cov-19/-22.
All the best.
We also have Bergamo and India. It is my understanding that states in the US have started to take heavier measures when cases have started to escalate quickly, then released the measures, that would have affected the evolution of the spread.
I’ll take a wager where I have 100% of chances to come out alive above one where there’s a chance to die but if I have to enter such a lottery, I’ll consider 0.1% chances of death a not insignificant risk to take. I can understand perceiving that dodging Covid is doable (I have low social activity myself and try to follow the guidelines, though it’s true most people don’t in my neighborhood (my mandatory circle of relationships includes politicians and people having grown and not got out a lot of a small town)), I’d find it difficult to play the odds if I acknowledged that my chances of going through this unscathed are lower if I don’t get vaccinated.
Joke mode on: it’s because we intend to be healthy and alive when we enjoy the wealth we’re accumulating while fiat money is thrown around, overflowing the stock market. 
Many of the high profile people advocating not getting vaccinated, in the US, are actually vaccinated themselves…
Human psychology is an interest multiplier when thrown in any topic. For all my talk about helping and protecting each others through this crisis, I can’t help but find everything that’s happening around very interesting and captivating. Having a stable job and no loved one at risk helps with that (along with being a person with an ingrained dark outlook on humanity).
Good news, vaccination rates are picking up again, possibly as tests will become “not free” soon, possibly as more people see their unvaccinated, otherwise healthy relatives/friends in IC with Covid, possibly since “winter is coming”, and many other reasons, I’m sure.
From nzz:
"Seit der Bundesrat am Mittwoch angekündigt hat, Tests kostenpflichtig zu machen und die Zertifikatspflicht auszudehnen, verzeichnen die Impfzentren starken Zulauf. Am Montag verzeichnete die Gesundheitsdirektion (ZH) noch 850 Erstimpfungen, am Donnerstag waren es über 3700. Das ist zwar noch immer weit von den zeitweise über 10 000 Dosen im Juni entfernt, doch seit über einem Monat lag die Zahl nie mehr so hoch.
Bisher haben sich über 950 000 Zürcherinnen und Zürcher mindestens einmal impfen lassen. Die Impfquote bei den über 16-Jährigen liegt inzwischen bei 70 Prozent. Doch noch immer haben knapp 400 000 Erwachsene keine Impfung erhalten. Das macht die Behörden nervös, denn in den letzten Wochen mussten sich wieder mehr am Coronavirus Erkrankte in Spitalpflege begeben. 165 Covid-19-Patienten liegen derzeit in einem Zürcher Spital, 53 davon befinden sich in Intensivpflege."
A few debates on swiss television where pro and contra measures share their opinions.
Arena - mit Bundesrat Alain Berset zu Corona - Play SRF (german, 27.08.2021)
Club - Corona und die Kritikerinnen und Kritiker - Play SRF (german, 03.08.2021)
Non-vaccinés, les nouveaux pestiférés? (rts.ch) (french, 25.08.2021)
There you say absolutely nothing concrete.
Is the swiss public media representative of the swiss voters is an other debate and is not an argument here because the links provided are debates where they are giving floor to both camps as they always do in votations/elections subjects. You also have to bear in mind that the vast majority of the parliament is behind the measures, not a surprise if you have more people interviewed that are defending them when checking radio, newspapers, tv
But even then:
-In the Club link provided, they are even 3 against the measures (including copresident of friends of the constitution) and only two defending it (including SVP counsillor of state Bern).
-In the french debate, they invited the spoke person of the friends of the constitution, so two for the measures, two against
This is even the rhetoric trick of Patron. When I read his text I would like to say it is only arm waving to make wind. In reality he introduces an assumption that sounds nice but is unverified and in fact is wrong or at least not really true. Then he builds the theory on it and draws conclusion. But what is great, this second part is absolutely correct, only the initial assumption is not correct.
Well, when someone as litteraly an answer to everything, I personally consider it a red flag.
Full BS. Absolutely untrue. This is the talking of conspiracy therorists, deniers, anti-establishmet talkt with zero merit whatsoever.
This one linked debate alone is 90 minutes of people from all directions (“less” and “more” covid measures plz) challanging Berset as representator of the government.
how much more “taking an anti government stance” would you require in order to stop thinking like this?
No amount will satisfy you, you are locked in your narrow world view and unable to honestly reflect. hence, discussions with you will never lead anywhere.
No matter how safe a vaccine they come up with, you will refuse “because the government lied”.
no matter how much data suggests the best, quickest, and least harmful way back to normality is getting everyone (with no medical counter-indication) vaccinated, you are against it “for reasons”.
no matter how much anyone makes concessions towards you, you wont move.
I watched the Arena. Berset did a pretty good job.