Coronavirus: when do we reach the bottom of the dip?

It is nice to have an opinion on things and be free and able to share it.
It does not mean that it is a worthy opinion, it is just your opinion.
I don’t see the point of “debating” complex matters with people who have no clue what they are talking about (I have to include myself here).

I’m confused. Are you saying your girlfriend should not take the vaccine or you should not take the vaccine because you wouldn’t be able to care for your girlfriend anymore? The former could possibly make sense but the latter seems a little far-fetched.

Anyways, the chance of serious long-term complications is really low. As @xorfish notes, you seem to be much more risk averse for one type of risk (complications of the vaccine) than you are for another type of risk (getting covid, possibly getting long-covid), even though the former is much less likely than the latter.
And you haven’t really given us a good explanation why this makes sense.

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Can we please move the pro/anti-vaccine discussions to another thread, I was going to say “to the trash”, but that’d probably be rude of me.

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Honestly, then you did not read all of my comments. I clearly stated where I stand, what my reasonings where and why. You may not like them, but there are there for you to read none the less. This conversation become non-productive quickly so Iet’s just drop it. Have a good day now.

Hey again @Myfirstme, now I have the 225 shares of the TUI AG - Non tradedable. Do you know for how long this is going to be like that? when would we be able to trade back with them?

Thanks a lot.

Good question. I guess a few days, but I don’t know. If you are really worried you could ask Degiro customer service.

Hi Glina, any idea when we would be able to sell the discounted sales that we got?
In my DEGIRO it says non-tardeable. Thanks!

I assume they will eventually combine into your main TUI1 position which is when you will be able to sell them.

Thanks :slight_smile:

Today it appears as only one, but not sure how they have managed with the value. I see it a bit less than expected. Any insights from your side?

I’m still amazed by this one. The timing is pretty spot on!

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Haha, yes, in March/April and for weeks (even months) after many were waiting for that second dip, so we didn’t realise at the time how prophetic this was.

I went back a few weeks ago to re-read this thread to remind me of the vibe of that time, and also thought, damn, that was a pretty awesome guess.
It’s a pity @Strabor has left the forum, I think it was in disagreement about ads on the forum and monetizing by MP. Ads which I never saw btw, so I never quite understood this.

Vaccination update today:

It seems to scale up a bit, not fast enough though. Should‘ve ordered more and given up the not needed vaccine shots to countries in need for free.

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Which „not needed vaccine shots“?
And how do you want to transfer those „not needed vaccine shots“ once removed from supercold storage (pfizer vaccine)?

Then once you order over required shots, because you don’t know which will be approved and when they’ll be delivered

It’s not all pfizer. And even them you can ship on when they’ve not been opened

Are you suggesting we ordered (as of now) too many vaccine doses which we already now could pass on to other countries?? The BAG data shows that we‘re far from vaccinating all those habitants that want a vaccination. We can discuss about passing on not needed vaccine shots when we are through but not earlier.

In practical terms, the pfizer vaccine, which needs to be stored at -70°, can remain 2, 3 hors in a regular freezer at -18° but that‘s it more or less. Afterwards the dose must/should be disposed. How are you going to redistribute such doses to a different country?
The Moderna vaccine requires „only“ -18° or so and can be kept days/weeks in a regular fridge. Here we might have a chance to redistribute once removed from the freezer.

But I see very little reason to discuss redistribution as long as not all habitants that want a vaccination have received it.

No, I‘m saying that if we had ordered more, we would have more doses delivered now (I assume cuts for delayed deliveries are %). Eventually we would have to many, not now obviously

I haven’t been following Covid-News lately for the sake of not losing my mind.

I’m having a hard time interpreting the current development (e.g. the loosening of measures) in Switzerland, maybe someone knows some of this stuff.

  • Considering the information I had mid-january, I’d have expected the UK or SA variant to be more wide-spread by now. Is it fair to say that the increase in R-value for the new variants has been lower than expected (but still higher than the base-variants)?

  • On the other hand I’m struggling to understand why the case numbers have stagnated for quite some weeks. The lockdown measures seem to be effective, so you’d expect the cases to decrease further… Is this some weak evidence for only the cases of the old variant really decreasing and the new variant being on the rise?

  • How do you judge the chance that loosening the measures is ok for this moment? Maybe the coming spring with higher temperatures and more sunshine will counteract the negative of the loosened measures?

Hi, I am not an epidemilogist, but like everyone have an opinion about this

We do not have an exponentially increase of theses new variant thanks to the very hard measures since mid january.

That is exactly what is happening, old variant diminishes with the current hard mesures, but those measures are not sufficient to diminish the number of cases of the new variants

I think its too early for loosening since we know that the case numbers of variants are increasing. I hope that you are right with the higher temperatures.

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