Tax declarations are fun

Probably a stupid question, but is it really necessary to put all trades in the declaration? Isn’t it enough to state what we have, which dividends/tax were paid, and that’s it (as passive investor who didn’t sell any stock)?

Asking this as I’m a bit lazy. But depending on the answer, I could go on with the second question… How can we modify a declaration if it’s already been submitted and we need to add things, eg… Trades?

Asking for Vaud if that even makes a difference

For ZH that‘s enough.

The french speaking cantons I think are quite a bit more strict on stuff like this.

I never put any details of transactions in Vaud, last year was the only time they asked for more details and I just sent a pdf from IBKR and that was fine.

It depends. Some cantons it is enough to put a summary and attach the schedule.

In other cantons, you have to enter line by line as they do not accept market values but use their own tax values for securities.

…aaand its gone (again; 14:20). :wink:

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How do you avoid putting in all detailed transactions for zurich? It complains otherwise. Does it let you submit the declaration regardless?

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If I have a zero position end-of-year and had no dividends I just leave it out. It is not relevant for taxes.

If somebody asks I provide the complete data from IBKR, even it is not needed for taxing but maybe to explain capital gains. They did never ask however until now. I adhere all the rules for not being a professional trader anyhow.

it only warns, you can ignore that IIRC

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I had a call with the Vaud tax office and they said it should be fine to skip the transactions as long as the end of year part is filled, as well as dividends and taxes. On Vaud Tax we fill each fund’s details (isin, etc) and under the summary there’s a “add transaction” button, which I simply didn’t touch. It went well.

And if anyone wonders, we can edit the declaration after posting it for a few days. We need to go through the login again, start a new declaration and import the save file, do the modifications and publish it again, then a message will warn us it’d overwrite the previous one. Confirm and that’s it.

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Everything entered now (even with a slow ZH PrivateTax site today).
Will double-check things tomorrow and submit afterwards.

After comparing the compact summaries – Steuererklärung Kompakt – for 2023 and 2024, we have about 5% additional taxable income and about 16% additional taxable wealth.
This results in about 10% additional total tax.
Progression is a bitch.


(live shots of me looking at the additional taxes and then using some of the additional dividend income to wipe away my inevitable tears …)

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This means you made very good stock pick in 2024. Congrats ! :partying_face:

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What I consider to be less than ideal is that in a case, where they correct my tax declaration, it still displays online the version that I originally submitted (ZHprivateTax).
This happened to me last year, so the comparison 2023 vs. 2024 is incorrect in my case.

Anybody had the same happened to them?

Actually the worst is the so called “warm progression”. We pay about 2.5 billion too much because of warm progression which is not fair. If all income progresses they should correct for warm progression the same way they do for cold progression!

Interesting article to warm progression (NZZ, german): https://archive.md/GdzxK

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It looks like they updated their ICTax data, the dividends I was missing are there now.

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US9219438580 still missing for me.

Weird, I see the dividends if I search for it. They don’t roll it out at the same time for all users perhaps?


On the website footer I have
Version 1.6.0 / FK-Version 2024-d2aba-47632

Same version here. Not sure why it differs (the demo account also manages to find it)

Hi all,

This weekend, I started working on my tax declaration for Zurich Kanton and was able to fill in most of the sections, except for one. When completing the Wertschriften (securities) and Vermögen (wealth) sections, I wanted to report the cash in addition to the stocks I have in my Interactive Brokers account. However, I wasn’t sure where to include this cash.

Below I attach an image of the categories that can be selected in this section:

Should it be listed under Konto (account)? Since it is not a traditional bank account and doesn’t have an IBAN, I am unsure about the correct category for it.

How do you usually report cash like this (in a broker account) in your declarations? Any guidance would be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

Just use Konto, the exact denomination doesn’t matter :slight_smile:

Super! Thanks for the reply!