Should I buy TSLA shares?

Ahhh NKLA =/= NIO sorry xD Yeah NIO is cool I guess.

Everytime they change from sell to buy, I have already finished to buy for weeks

Oh yeah it’s going viral and it’s only the beginning! Already got 750% return on this with a PA @2.95, that’s just insane!

  • Q3 numbers

  • Nio day EOY

  • Global sales in 2021

  • ET7 Sedan Launch

  • Autonomous Driving advancements

These are the next moves in the upcoming months. Good luck to all :slightly_smiling_face:

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congratulations on your “Spiffy pop”. Hopefully more to come :slight_smile:

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Tesla provided pretty good numbers for Q3, however there were also high expectations. Does the stock go to the moon today?

This is a hot discussion here. Enjoy and good luck!

I see what you did there. Not sure why not more news papers picked it up but full self driving has arrived: https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/22/21528508/tesla-full-self-driving-beta-first-reaction-video

Releasing beta software to public (US in particular) roads is extremely intelligent. :grin:
How are they even allowed to do that, are there no regulations in place?
Depends how exactly they define their “beta”.
I guess they need more data. :nerd_face:

Given the videos I’ve seen so far I expect the first crash/fatality of people using it by the end of this week. Don’t give americans toys, they usually break them (referring to all those microwave disclaimers about not drying babies or animals in them)

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I’m on holiday so I don’t follow the news closely, but I wonder if this “FSD” is the real deal. If it’s true then that’s huge news, potentially World-changing.

From what I’ve seen, driving in cities and urban streets seems to be working. Even a roundabout was taken properly. However I’m not clear if parking and entering/exiting driveways of houses works yet.

This is still Level 3 or Level 4 at best - since it requires human attention and reaction if things go wrong.
Definitely not FSD (L5).

They should cut down on their marketing lingo, but that’s already well known for years…

I hope the bar is higher, there’s bunch of startups and waymo who afaik have been doing that for a while, the question is how much does it disengage per km driven (or does it take wrong decision). That number should be very very low.

Are you sure waymo can do this on any street in the World? Or just in a single pre-mapped city?

Can tesla’s self driving run on roads that aren’t mapped? (In any case some amount of mapping is expecting, afaik the state of the art still requires a base map, e.g. openstreettmap to navigate)

I’d expect that similarly to waymo, tesla builds internal maps from car sensors that are then shared back to all cars. (They use a basemap but are still able to handle some amount of unexpected situation).

Will be interesting to see the stats once more people play with the beta.

(I don’t think currently waymo has any public program to run outside of fenced areas, but it would be surprising if they are not working on such capability, they explicitly don’t want to have L3 and below capabilities as they think those are too dangerous to operate, so they will always be more conservative)

No that’s not true. Even the autopilot that I’m using detects the lane dynamically, also if it’s a solid line or a dashed line, and then draws it on the screen. With waymo, they need to drive that road with special equipment, process it, and probably manually fix some inconsistencies. Tesla can drive on a road it has never seen before.

Not really true either. Waymo can also drive thru unknown areas w/o preprocessed maps. They do have ML models that allow for that. The only difference between Waymo and Tesla is that Waymo uses Lidar for higher precision while Tesla tries to be able to fully rely on Camera input.

Just google the start of aviation around 120 years ago. Those “planes” did not look good, were not save and nobody thought that this will be a successful idea at all. It needs time and several people trying things out (and getting a bloody nose).

Why do you write this reply to me? I’m confident that we will be driven in self driving taxis by 2030.

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Also aren’t there already tons of available system for lane/sign detection? (I don’t own a car, but I thought that was standard now at least for high end ones).

What we’re talking about is having the reliability of that be high enough to not require any human inputs (from a quick googling waymo was at 0.076 disengagements for every 1600 kilometers driven at the beginning of the year).