This is quite a big promise (>500 miles range). 
Let’s see which percentage of it is true, once really out.
In the making. Three years, says Elon Musk.
Yeah, the 2nd hand buyer won‘t have it (due to the license being tied to the original purchaser’s user account) - unless he spends good money to puchase his own license directly from Tesla.
first, I was talking generally
secondly, every tesla comes with standard autopilot which includes adaptive cruise control+all the safety assistance features. Even on second hand market. They are standard on all models, but requires hands on wheel, always attention and no automatic lane change.
Your car will always have the best possible passive safety feature eg automatic braking etc. These are standard on all tesla and do not require specific license. you buy a 4 years old tesla and will have all safet yfeature of the 2021 model. Tell me this is not a game changer for 2nd hand market!
What you get with the FSD options that you purchase separately is the potential for autonomous driving, ie hands not on wheel. This will need to be purchased by the other user.
speaking about Nikola:
https://hindenburgresearch.com/nikola-response/
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At least, everyone can agree about the zero-emission feature of the demo truck 
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Disruptive technology and innovative materials (EN).
They really seem to keep on innovating.
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I’ll admit, it’s super weird, I even read the original forum thread for more info. It looks like a quick fix for some problem, which will for sure get eliminated in future versions. I guess the people who make the first orders have to live with the fact that they’re ordering a “beta” version.
But I find it symptomatic that you link to an article about wooden pads, but nobody linked the the photo of the leaked new super huge battery cell, which could potentially cut down cost substantially.
It’s a band-aid fix that looks totally amateurish.
Does that mean it’s unsafe in any way? Not necessarily. But still…
Yeah, well… it’s established that lithium-ion battery can be dangerous.
Can I be sure about the safety of their battery tech? Very obviously employing cheap quick fixes in rushing to production doesn’t exactly inspire confidence in the safety of their product.
At the very least, it takes good (situational) judgement. Which, again, I have my doubts about, with a company that calls their driver assistance system an “Autopilot”. A moniker that some of their customers have taken all too literally.
Here you demostrate your ignorance. The term autopilot is derived straight from aviation. Here an opening quote from wikipedia:
An autopilot is a system used to control the trajectory of an aircraft, marine craft or spacecraft without requiring constant manual control by a human operator. Autopilot does not replace human operators. Instead, autopilot assists the operator’s control of the vehicle, allowing the operator to focus on broader aspects of operations
Anybody who buys a Tesla and does not understand what autopilot is capable of, is not worth the pity, anyway.
It seems to me like many people in this forum really wish Tesla bad and they feel sheer joy when they discover articles like this one.
I don’t need to look the term up on Wikipedia, as I’m familiar enough with the word’s origins and its technological applications.
First, the “auto-” comes from ancient Greek, meaning “self, one’s own, by oneself, of oneself” and is used to refer to (at least partly) “autonomous” functionality in countless industrial and technological applications that do not require user input.
I’ll won’t retort to your accusation of ignorance, but you might, maybe should read just a few lines deeper into that Wikipedia article:
An autopilot system is sometimes [colloquially] referred to as “George” [[2]] (e.g. “we’ll let George fly for a while”)
…implying that an autopilot will fly an aircraft on its own, by controlling all necessary inputs on its own, for (at least) entire phases of a flight. And that’s what it in fact does, whether good or bad.
…such as communication and navigation. Pilots are allowed - routinely do - take their hands off the yoke (only above a certain flying altitude).
And this is where your reference and Tesla’s analogy to aviation’s autopilots fail so clearly:
Automobile drivers on public roads are not allowed to shift their focus to “broader aspects of operation” as you so nicely quote. Drivers are required by law to dedicate their focus to manual operation of their car by observing the road and controlling accelerator, brakes and the steering wheel. If you want to focus on other aspects of operation (for more than the split second it takes to read navigational signs), you are required to halt your car.
I’m not gloating in Schadenfreude because it’s Tesla. It would be an embarassment for any manufacturer. Still, it’s kind of funny especially for them, since they tout themselves as being so more innovative and futuristic than other carmakers.
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When I’m in a traffic jam, I put my Tesla in autopilot. It will brake and move and keep the lane. I can then for example look for a song on spotify. When I’m moving fast, I take my foot off the gas pedal so it can rest. This is possible because some level of autonomy. Anyway, it’s not worth splitting hairs on the issue. Let’s wait for tuesday and see what Tesla has delivered in terms of battery improvement.
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Funnily enough the AutoPilot features were limited by EU regulators which made them more dangerous than they have been a few years ago. For example limiting speed and cornering forces, 3 years ago I was able to take the left curve after the Üetlibergtunnel towards Zürich City w/o action/control, today the car slows down below the allowed 80 km/h and sometimes even leaves the lane because the limitations introduced by law. I do like to call it Autopilot until I see another manufacturer that comes close to the feature set with their crippled systems which they call “Stop&Go Assistant”.
Audi had the same MobilEye technology like Teslas in their cars 5 years ago (modulo the front facing radar) but they never managed to build their software in a way to use the full potential of it.
I need a Model Y now! This personalized, handcrafted finishing touch, without the price of a Rolls Royce. Why complain?
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One quirk I noticed was after the Gubrist tunnel towards Zurich Airport, the cruise control still thinks the limit is 70 and it slows down, which could potentially be dangerous. Wonder how soon can Tesla start relying on road signs for speed limit reference. Judging by how retarded some signs are, it won’t be fast. Examples:
- it says 100 but its crossed over by red tape, next to it is another 100 sign, wtf?
- it says 40 but only from 22 to 06, Lärmschutz
- in Germany it often says 100 bei Nässe
- many signs going off the autobahn are placed really close to it, and it says 60 or even 40. How should the AI figure out that this sign doesn’t apply?
I second you on this… often it’s so difficult even for human beings here in CH to guess which speed limit is currently valid, especially on highways… this does not depose in favour of the people who design/install/mantain these speed signs…
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It’s way more easy for a computer. GPS give the normal speed and if dedicated sensor see anything right, left, write on the road can adapt speed when human can just miss the speed. Computer can manage a lot of sensors in real time when you have only 2 eyes limited and can’t look different area during the same time. Human are limited but react much better than a computer who just read/wait instructions when something happen. No one can program all events so you have crash.
Back to topic… TSLA (and the whole stock market) are tanking pretty bad today… Let’s see how the battery day tomorrow turns out.
Your comment is already obsolete.
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So battery day is over. Tesla announced 5 changes that will in total result in a battery price reduction of 56%. Their new 4680 cell (46x80mm) has 5x capacity and 6x power. The production line will take 10x less footprint, potentially allowing for a 1 TWh / year production “terafactory”.
Some commenters said that Tesla tried not to overhype their presentation, maybe not to cause an Osborne effect. You could even expect a price drop under $400 today, since Tesla did not beat the expectations with this presentation. But I think that these promises should already bring EV prices down so much, that ICE producers will have a hard time to win on economics alone.