Sentiment Survey - December 2024

Inspired by the Seeking Alpha Sentiment Survey (ongoing as we speak):


Where will you put most of your new investing capital in 2025?

  • Stocks
  • Bonds
  • Commodities
  • Cash investments
  • Crypto
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Which index will be the top performer in 2025?

  • S&P 500
  • Nasdaq Composite
  • VT
  • VT ex US
  • Other (state below)
0 voters

Best describe your investing style for the coming year:

  • Passive
  • Active
  • Mixed
  • Other (state below)
0 voters

How will inflation trend in 2025 (in the US)?

  • Price pressures will continue to moderate
  • Flatlining: Current rate will stay the same
  • Prepare for a resurgence in inflation
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Where will the VT be closest to at the end of 2025 (currently at $118.95)?

  • +10%
  • +5%
  • same a Dec 2024
  • -5%
  • -10%
0 voters

Which of the following are the best emerging trends for 2025? Check all applicable

  • Artificial intelligence
  • Quantum computing
  • Drones and robotics
  • Autonomous vehicles
  • Rare earths/critical minerals
  • Bio- and agro- technology
  • Advanced power tech like small modular nuclear reactors
  • Virtual and augmented reality
  • Blockchain and crypto applications
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LOL, we’re degens :stuck_out_tongue:

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Where is @stojano when we need some diversity?

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I see now why


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Interesting thread.

‘Most of [our] investing capital’ can also mean we’re planning on holding a 60/40 portfolio (not bercing myself with illusions, though, most of us probably plan to go 100% stocks).

I’m probably not representative on this one since I will have very small amounts I’ll be able to have invested so I’m pretty neutral to either a crash or a to the moon scenario. Sentiment surveys are all about aggregates, though, so the individual reasons behind individual points shouldn’t really matter if we can get enough of them.

Of course, I read it as “new contributions”, too.

I think having little available capital for investment becomes less and less important over time as a bigger pot becomes less and less sensitive to new contributions. If you have 5k (my first contribution in Jan 2022) and add 1k you just added 20% inorganically, if you have 500k and contribute 20k it’s just a blip. I am nowhere near there myself, yet, but one day will be.

I think when I ran the numbers one needs 10 years of steady contributions to be able to leave it alone and even stop adding.

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It’s a lot better now:

:wink:

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I wasn’t sure whether to read that as ‘new investing capital’ or just existing portfolio allocation.

I think even the wording ‘most’ hides a lot since I have a large allocation to real estate, bonds and commodities, but stocks is still the biggest. When you look at the stocks, there are also commodity stocks and real estate stocks - arguably, some of these could be re-categorized.

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I read the original (cited) survey as where to allocate new money in 2025 but I can see that the question is not phrased clearly cut about this.

I’d rather not change the survey question mid race – we’re not in politics here, are we? :wink: – but if folks thinks it needs clarification, let me know?

Trendline wise, the two nuances probably converge, I would guess?

(It’s just a sentiment survey – my sentiment changes daily hourly.)

In which case, I changed my answer from stocks to bonds. Next year, I’m continuing to fill my pension pot.

Holding a larger (wealth vs new contributions) 60/40 Portfolio means that loads of new contributions now go into bonds cash.

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I like it.

The New York Times picked up on our topic and phrased it as follows in their corresponding headline today:

Active Investors Moving To Bonds In 2025

Famous activist investor @PhilMongoose expressed views today of bonds being more favorable than stocks in 2025. This sent unexpected jittery waves through the trillion dollar AUM hedge fund world. Repercussions even reached Jerome Powell, and the Fed is now re-evaluating the next dot plots, and is considering stepping off the gas even more slowly.

:wink:

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Hedge fund traders are probably front running the trade by shorting bonds and buying leveraged call options in stocks.

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It’s missing RE, isn’t it? Or at least an “Other” section.

It does. Seems I can’t edit the poll anymore.

I guess people can always add a comment accordingly.

For those of us old enough to have seen GoldenEye:

YARN | closing time, James! Last call! | James Bond ...

A couple more days to go if anyone still hasn’t cast their vote 


Gentle reminder: your account on this forum will be closed automatically if you don’t vote.
Jk.

I plan to close the poll before the markets open next year.

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The results of the “top performing index” question are kind of funny, if you think about it. VT is at about 25% of the vote, but what’s the circumstance where VT outperforms both S&P 500 and VT-ex-US?

If the US as a whole outperforms the world, then S&P 500 will obviously beat VT. If US as a whole underperforms the world, then VT-ex-US will obviously beat VT. I think what you’d need is for US to match the rest of the world overall, but US small cap to trounce US large cap / ex-US. (A small outperformance wouldn’t do it, since the weight of US small cap in VT is quite low.)

It’s not impossible, but I feel that 25% of the forum wouldn’t be saying that Russell 2000 will be the best performing index in 2024.

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Where is M.C. Escher when we need him?