Mastercard…
ZKB Visa Debit Card für Kartenzahlung und Bezug von Bargeld
Die ZKB Visa Debit Card ist Ihre Alltagsbegleiterin, wenn Sie bargeldlos einkaufen oder Bargeld beziehen möchten.
Mastercard…
Aaand they just added an exchange fee:
What will change for you?
As a neon free user, here’s what you can expect with the roll-out beginning on 13 May 2025 and continuing over the following days:
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Well, I guess now it’s a waiting game until the likes of Alpian and Radicant will follow. Will slowly but surely make Wise or Revolut more competitive again (or even the likes of ZKB with a capped fee for large amounts)
Oh well. It was fun while it lasted.
Source? I’ve seen surcharges > 1% on their site.
WIR has still interbank rates w/o surcharge.
Die ZKB Visa Debit Card ist Ihre Alltagsbegleiterin, wenn Sie bargeldlos einkaufen oder Bargeld beziehen möchten.
In German only unfortunately, but it’s basically 1.25% up to a cap of 1.50 CHF. So bad for small transaction, but ok for large ones. When I experimented the FX rates were better than all neon, Revolut and wise and on par with radicant.
In German only unfortunately, but it’s basically 1.25% up to a cap of 1.50 CHF. So bad for small transaction, but ok for large ones. When I experimented the FX rates were better than all neon, Revolut and wise and on par with radicant
Often they have a spread in addition to the fee, is that the case here?
Will quote myself:
Blockquote When I experimented the FX rates were better than all neon, Revolut and wise and on par with radicant.
I ran a number of test transaction at multiple points during 2024 (buying gift cards in EUR) with all those at the same time during the week. Conclusion was that radicant and ZKB pretty much used a rate that was equal to the IBRK rate at that time. Revolut, neon and wise (excl. fees) with a small markup.
But of course this is me just testing at 2-3 random times in the year with results varying a bit, but generally showing the same trend, meaning excluding fees neither had a large markup.
Still cheap for what it is IMHO so this isn’t going to make me switch.
However, they do need to get their act together when it comes to app access. I’ve been having to re-enter my credentials as if I had just downloaded the app for the first time every other day (or so) recently, and after that it was often still impossible to log in
Until radicant offering changes, I don’t see any reason to use neon as a main free banking account anymore (I don’t talk about an investing offering).
unless you do it so often that neon integration with Sonect makes a difference
Wasn’t Radicant risking bankrupcy?
Also if Neon keeps screwing up with the “SBB” blunder, I might switch as well. I was almost an Alpian fan until my laziness ruined me.
Would be interesting to see the data, if you happen to have them in some tabular format (anonymized of course).
Sounds like something moneyland do in their comparison blog posts.
Conclusion was that radicant and ZKB pretty much used a rate that was equal to the IBRK rate at that time. Revolut, neon and wise (excl. fees) with a small markup.
Good to know, since ZKB is capped might be a good option for pricey items.
New pricing conditions: As card costs have risen for fintechs like us, we will apply a 0.35% exchange rate surcharge for card payments abroad (e.g., 0.70 CHF on a 200 CHF payment).
As Adele said:
“This is the end
Hold your breath and count to ten”
So long neon you were fun and useful the time you last
Neon has a nicer Investment part than Alpian I believe. I didn’t see any review of Alpian or Radicant
I’m using IBKR so I don’t mind, but sure it could be a strong argument
0.35% is still quite cheap compared to the big banks. I need to look up my foreign purchases from last year to get a sense of the actual impact of this change.
UBS key4 debit card has Mastercard rate +0.5%. So UBS’ entry package is pretty much comparable to neon now.