~5 years ago I stopped buying Lidl chicken as I found it to be tasteless but seeing the comments I may try again.
I agree with the comment that prices in France where I regularly shop for the family have increased (relative standard of French supermarkets seems to have worsened too)
Your body needs little, your mind needs more. Mental health is key to a satisfied lifeâŠ
Yes, I see. Seneca probably just forgot about it, or missed having a satisfying life. BTW, where did you get the idea that wanting and spending more gives mental health and satisfaction? Is that your experience?
Please lets not derail the thread.
Natura Farm Minced beef is on of the best you can get, in taste but also in ecology. The meat comes from suckler cows, more precise from the mothers of the sucklers (Mutterkuh). That means the cows were feeded without any cereals, mainly grassland based. The animals spent most of the time outdoor and have quiet an age. All perfect points to create the best taste and beeing the lost respectful with the animals
Apologies for disturbing your circles and sensible undertakings in such a useless philosophical way. I duff my hat and respectfully wish you godspeed. 
Wow a lot of replies already but here goes anyway:
33k savings a year isnât to be scoffed at. If you enjoy life the way you live, keep doing it. FIRE is nice and well, but if you hate life until you get there, you are losing. Not winning.
As someone who loves amazing vacations (spending $20k+ a year), high-quality clothes and gives a lot of gifts, here are my tips:
Travel: Consider investing time in travel hacking and loyalty programs (Really worth for the long term). Websites like hotelcard.ch can also offer significant discounts
Clothes: I buy high-quality clothes, but the key is not to be impulsive. Instead, wait for deep discounts after seasons (After Christmas). Buy discounted items even if theyâre for next season, but of course make sure theyâre pieces youâll actually wear.
Gifts: Similar to clothes, buy gifts in advance when you find good deals.
Thatâs more than I spent in the last 10 years for me and my 2 kids (including clothes and shoes)!
You have to remember that all money is spent or given away. So the decision is really about whether to spend it now, or spend it later. We know that we need to spend some later as we will be too old to work and so need to save a portion for old age.
Part of FIRE is being conscious about this trade-off and also bringing forward retirement by avoiding mindless consumption that doesnât bring happiness.
However, a few FIRE adherents go too far and start to cut back on consumption that is useful and brings joy.
So simply ask yourself, how much do you enjoy those expenses and would you get more enjoyment by deferring it and spending it later. Given your age and projected career path, Iâd guess it makes sense to spend now - the only caveat is to see whether the current spending can be more effective/efficient.
19 posts were merged into an existing topic: Our domestic energy consumption
How about Mucho Mobile? Swisscom Network (4G only) and equal Roaming / Int. cost:
More electricity has been used by the equipment in use for the various updates to this thread than poor @Cortana will ever be able to save even if he cuts his electricity use by half.
At least all the electrons used for writing these messages were 100% recycled âŠ
I think those 20 posts discussing electricity costs were interesting, but we should come to an end here 
Iâll update you after I lived a couple of months in the new apartment.
This is what I was going to comment. I love travel and spend quite a lot of money there as well. But we(my wife and I) did try to find what really bring us joy on the travel and try to reduce the expenses on the other sides
It isnât easy to say, but your savings are ridiculously low for Switzerland, it seems to me. Which would mean that yes, youâre spending a lot, given your salary level. Youâre spending pretty much all that you get.
For reference, I spend on average 3.5k/month and my net salary is around the same as your gross one.
I understand food and groceries includes restaurants, right? Thatâs a category people always spend too much. On groceries, I spend on average less than 100 CHF/week, for 2 people. The secret? Lidl and planning.
But is your 3.5k half of a dual-income household so really 7k split in two? A single person has higher overheads than a couple.
How did you come to this conclusion?
After bonus itâs almost 2â800 CHF/month.
Pre bonus itâs 1â600 CHF/month, which is already more than a lot of people save.
52% of adults have <50K net worth (2020), so Iâm pretty sure they donât save this much. 
Your secret is not living alone.
A huge number of people live paycheck to paycheck. The average is not a benchmark those on a FIRE forum should hold themselves to.