It’s fairly unlikely so far they’ll lose control of senate (there’s been apparently quite a few folks voting Biden but republican down ballot). Numbers for senate race in Georgia and North Carolina have been still pointing at a republican win.
(and the Georgian runoff is unlikely to turn dem, I don’t think it will have a huge turnout so it would be much harder to turn than the regular seat which probably won’t turn already).
those who left socialist-turned-dictatorial political systems (cuba/ venezuela/ nicaragua)? who may dislike democratic party that ‘sounds’ socialist.
those who are more religious / evangelical / church going.
or those come from poorer countries, but are potentially university educated (and very mobile) like you and me, looking for better work opportunities / salaries / working conditions, etc etc and don’t want to be potentially taxed ‘higher’ by democrats!
thinking of Hispanics as monolith is simply lazy thinking.
all ‘east europeans’ don’t think alike! Nor do all ex-yugoslavians, nor all hispanics !
You depreciate the first hand experience these people have with real socialism.
Fair enough, although latinos have to be the majority of hispanics. How about blacks? Are they more of a monolith and why? 90% agreement is really profound. it’s the kind of number only communist leaders see in their faked elections
Maybe because african americans are mostly not recent immigrants and have a much longer shared experience (centuries).
I think hispanics includes a lot of more recent immigrations from a variety of countries/background. It’s like 20th century european immigration, I’m fairly sure italian and irish immigrants wouldn’t vote in the same way, tho they’re all from europe.
Black Americans living in different states of USA have lived through situations (laws, slavery, poverty, lack of civil rights, access to good education) that are more similar to each other than latinos/hispanics from different counties/ political systems. Would you agree on that?
In the same breath, you could also ask - are ‘white farmers and rural folk’ more of a monolith or likely to vote for 1 party than some other parts of populations? Maybe they share common experiences of social & economic highs and lows.
Still, there are rich & poor people among them, entrepreneurs & unemployed. Yet they all don’t want to vote republican, save for a few exceptions.
Looking at your link (great stuff), the most telling demographic traits (5%+ share, 60%+ lean):
Age 18-29: 61% Biden
Protestant: 61% Trump
Latino race: 63% Biden
Urban: 65% Biden
Rural: 65% Trump
Atheist: 72% Biden
Black race: 90% Biden
Easily the most prominent demographic trait to determine voting preference is belonging to the black race. By the way, notice how Biden attracts voters of certain demographical traits, but Trumps voters are more spread out.
Could I? Because after these last 4 years (and you can go back further) you are here genuinely surprised asking with a straight face why would african american people not vote for Trump? Or the GOP? I feel a little bit of sarcasm is justified, no offense.
I’m actually quite shocked that there’s 10% of black people that vote for a white supremacist.
It seems to me you do mean offense, but whatever. If it isn’t clear to you, I understand why blacks generally favor Biden over Trump, but 90:10 is just big, don’t know how big it was in 2016, but this could have cost him the reelection.
I would also like to add that Republicans have been trying to keep black people (and actually also other groups of populations which might be more prone to vote democratic) away from the vote systematically since the supreme court cancelled the federal oversight of the voting process in the different states.
This measures includes:
-closing down voting offices in black areas, invreasing waiting times or necessary travel distance = make it more difficult for people without a car (poor) or a precarious job
-voters registration and faulty erase from voters registration list (with a statistical significance that it impacts black people
-limit or even totally erase voting right for life (for petty things like theft in some states).
-being late on debt payments
And finally, not to forget the gerrymandering (redrawing county contours to favor to win more representatives despite having less votes) which has been actively pursued in republican states.
BTW, only republican party has profited of the fact you could become president with lesser total votes to my knowledge.
Finally little fun fact, there has been a big turn in American politcs, where Democrats was the party of the rich and South and Republican the party of the Blacks (Lincoln’s party) until of at least the end of the 19th century.
How exactly? Please enlighten me.
In case you want to expand your horizons, read the link below.
Quote from article:
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When Joe Biden became the Democratic nominee the messaging toward Latinos sharpened. Trump and Republicans misleadingly casting Biden as a socialist and even a “Castro-Chavista,” referring to Fidel Castro of Cuba and Hugo Chavez of Venezuela. The incessant messaging in Spanish language ads proved effective — as well as disinformation and misinformation about Biden and Democrats that was widely shared through social media. Many Latinos here came to believe the United States would become a socialist country if Biden were elected.
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You can read more here:
What I also find funny is how the Republicans ended up with the red color, which has only become fix in 1996. This assignment is contrary to what you see in other countries, where red is associated with left-wing parties.
“For years, both parties would do red and blue maps, but they always made the other guys red,” said Chuck Todd, political director and chief White House correspondent for NBC News. “During the Cold War, who wanted to be red?”
I don’t know if someone has already linked it, but it seems like the reason of some weird moving are the fact that the democrats were scared of corona and mostly voted by mail.
Also to be noted that someone showed a map about counties where you can clearly see that it’s more land vs city, where cities voted Dem and land (how do you call not-city?) voted Rep. It’s probably linked to the races as well.
It seems to me that the US has quite some margin before becoming a “socialist country”, I would put Biden somewhere in between center right and right on a Swiss scale.
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