Maybe even several monthly salaries!
Last Monday I was convinced the rally on stocks had to do with the election of Biden but in fact it was the vaccine from Pfizer.
I have the feeling everything will get it now (The covid, not the gain). Each day there is one more people infected around me. Everybody seems to go through it without too much problems except a friend, sporty, 35 years old, who is under intensive care. Problems can be present even with young and healthy people.
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POLAND STRONK
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Corona Data has a shiny new version, some interesting new charts.
For example, excess mortality. Has is really been that much worse in Sweden than in Switzerland?
Or âLockdown level trackerâ:
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Looks quite a bit worse to me.
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You can do the mathâŠ
Sweden
Deaths: 6â164
Population: ~10â100â000
Switzerland
Deaths: 3â369
Population: ~8â600â000
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According to NZZ, Switzerland has the highest number of infections per inhabitant.
How can we be worse off than Sweden?!
EDIT: Population density, probably.
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Sweden had more strict measures during the whole summer (e.g. max 50 persons events). See 3rd part of attached image.
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What numbers did you quote? What time range? Are these exclusively covid deaths or all? Do both countries classify covid deaths the same? Are the lives saved by Switzerland not lost in other areas (lower mobility, unemployment, depression). Yeah, I see from the chart that Sweden had it worse, but not like 10x worse. And itâs still to early to decide who made the better call.
Those are the numbers from worldometers since the beginning of the pandemic. For Switzerland their source are the daily BAG numbers. For Sweden I donât know. Of course, the numbers are not a 100% comparable or accurate. But I just wanted to demonstrate the proportions.
What do you lives and deaths compare with? I cannot imagine anything.
As I donât want to get into a battle of words here, I am out of this discussion.
Yes, this topic tends do get controversial, even if there was no such intent. Probably best to skip it. Iâll just point to a link to show that it is an important topic in economics, insurance & healthcare.
I would compare Sweden to other nations that had a similar situation, not to another bad example like Switzerland. Sweden didnât really do better than the surrounding nations on economic grounds but had many more deaths and presumably more cases of long term damage.
On the vaccine site, there is more good news from Moderna. Out of 95 cases in the study, 90 where in the placebo group and only 5 where in the vaccine group, suggesting a effectiveness of around 94.5%.
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This vaccine also would ease a lot of problems with storage/transportation as should be stable at -20C up to 6 months and at 4C up to a month (Pfizer requires -70C according to them, although itâs not black and white).
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Sweden just announced a ban on public meetings with more than 8 people:
https://www.thelocal.se/20201116/breaking-sweden-introduces-limit-of-eight-coronavirus
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Does this mean they opted to follow the strategy of other countries?
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They seem to be able to learn from their mistakes and it really is necessary if you look at their numbers.
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Well, they can look at our numbers if they need to feel better.
Unhappy taxpayer here. 
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Hospitals are reaching full capacity lately. Luckily numbers are going down.
Unfortunately I think some of that reduction in daily cases might be dure to change in testing, as many cantons have adopted a ârapidâ antigenic test which is less sensitive that the PCR-based one.
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Could be because some cantons (Geneva supposedly) already âstopped counting/testingâ weeks ago, since positive rate was over 50%.
Itâs a hearsay though, people commenting on BAGâs Twitter.
So hospitalization and death rates are the only reasonable indicators now.
It might also be a âclever playâ to reduce the perceived seriousness and get some tourists in for the winter. 
This wouldnât make a lot of sense.
Winter tourism could only start in a couple of weeks and heavy underreporting would get exposed pretty quick.
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