[COFFEE] What's your weekly meat consumption?

I don’t know about Switzerland’s legislation, but the EU banned the use of growth hormones for farmstock in 1981, and growth antibiotics in 2006. I would be suprised if Switzerland was worse in this regard.

Farmstock fed with hormones and antibiotics is a real issue in other continents such as America. But I would not worry about it in the EU/Switzerland.

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My feeling too, but actually Switzerland is usually well behind the EU for such regulations!

See Glysophat banning - coming this year in EU, in CH they will discuss and do more studies.

Thank you Chemie Lobby!

Dairy farming? The feeling says 100% nature, just look at those cows on the Alps.

Reality - see antibiotics use in dairy farming
Switzerland - by far the worst in Western Europe!

Thank you, farmer lobby!

Well I learn something. So if I get it right, meat price is 3 times higher in CH than in Germany, but the quality is much worse? I see less and less reasons to protect farmers in Switzerland…

I’m not sure if there is any relation to quality. Swiss meat tastes much better than German meat IMO.

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it really depends. BIO in Switzerland is more strict and “better” than EU Bio, and for non-bio some of the regulation in EU are worse than CH.

No i dont think so, as an example you can watch This video at 19’00 from ABE about « détention des animaux » in Germany. They are far behind CH even with the Bio label.

That’s why i don’t eat Meat anymore, except the one from the bio farms next to my house, where i can see how they handle their animals and guess what, i don’t even miss it. I learned a lot since i turned « Flexitarian », how to replace and even perform as an athlete without meat.

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FYI, if you’re really worried about the amount of dangerous chemicals you eat you might want to take extreme care with hunted meat, which is a known source of lead poisoning…so much that the federal health office recommends to completely avoid hunted meat for children and pregnant women and recommends limited consumption to anyone else.
Of course if you hunt it down yourself with lead-free munitions it’s all good.

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Sadly that’s a bit more complicated.

I read several articles and in fact Lamb from Australia and ship it, produce less carbon foot print than the majority produce more locally

I’m interested to know the calculations/concepts behing this one. I could fathom it if most of the food for local sheeps was imported but sheeps eat grass in almost any terrain. Is that because they calculate the carbon footprint behind the subsidies we give to sheep farmers? Or are our processing methods so heavy in carbon that they manage to trump transportation + freezing impacts?

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I totally agree that meat consumption should be lower than it is in most western countries.

But I think it is important to understand that a completely vegan agriculture would use more chemical/mineral fertilizers and cause massive soil fertility problems die to absence of organic substances in the field which results in humus drain.

P.ex. Swiss agricultures covers approx. 75% of their fertilizers need with farm manure (slurry etc)

I do not remember the article, I read it long time ago and only remembering the headlines…