If they were privatized, you’d pay for what you need, in amounts that you need, for a price determined by negotiation. Currently, you pay for things that you need (streets, water, etc), things you don’t need (highways for people who don’t have cars and don’t like car pollution), and for things that you rather not have at all (think about subsidizing farming in most countries which is just plain idiotic or corporate welfare, like bailouts, that is plain immoral). For me, it is pretty clear that 2/3 of the population is basically screwing 1/3 employed in the private sector (even if the public sector produces some useful things to a limited extent).
Yeah, I don’t mind people retiring on their own savings. What I’m against is people retiring on my own savings.
Surely you can count retired as non-productive, but do you also consider them to live from public money? Very interesting to read that on supposedly Financial Independence forum.
So we are left now with 25% non-productive adults. Note that students may be not very productive at the moment, but the fact that they are studying means they will be more productive in the future.
Yes, because I don’t count all public employees as actually productively working. Many of these people are wasting public money, or even worse, they are making other people’s lives more difficult.
Sure, I don’t mind that children, students, or retirees don’t work, as long as they are supported by families or private savings or charity. What I do mind is people not working and living from taxes - especially when they are capable of work, but instead they are just doing silly things like studying Gender Studies or Socialist Philosophy or doing other hobbies. That I’d rather see them paying for themselves.
Which has been done because in the 60s or 70s, europe was actually dependent on food imports. I guess it would not be funny to be dependent on Russian cereal imports right now. So not that idiotic in my sense.
that I agree, but has nothing to do with public sector being productive
how is the food getting to your supermarket you think ? And you can still have a public sector being responsible for something and still make the right people pay. Example : electricity. the user is paying for how much he uses. Furthermore, you can profit from an existing infrastructure, even if you do not use it directly.
Example: social stability through social security (guess how much you would have to pay more to sta in a gated community with security.
Another one : education through taxes : as a wealthy person and invested person, you profit from the educated labour (your investments grow quicker)
Ok great, will turn off the wastewater plant I am responsible for. Have fun carrying water bottles to your house, and I hope you do not live close to any waterbody.
I am just tired that private companies do the job always better then public ones or less expensive. We just cover our operating costs and investments and do not have to pay any dividends to some shareholder on top of that.
And that never exists in a private sector ? All the businesses are so efficient ? Why did my former company went through a reorg every 3 y then, always switching between the 2 models (customer centric vs. product centric) ?
In my eyes, mismanagement has nothing to do with public vs. private sector, but simply with proper control and governance.
I think you’re wrong and comparison of developed countries with the bigger public sector (like France or Sweden) to countries with the smaller public sector (like Switzerland or Singapore) proves the point, but nevertheless, I’m not going to waste more of my time here. So, from my side, this is the end of the discussion. Good luck.
People not striving to most well paid jobs do it easier for others. Would you like more competition in your field? And not now, but just when you were looking for your first job.
USA has army to adsorb useless youth, in Europe they have a possibility to study, well, very long.
Society needs different people with different interests, like a biological species needs mutants and outliers, to adapt to new conditions if they are changing. Remember for example bit less then 2 years ago eSports become a huge success? Well, there were no other sports somehow.
You can’t get rich with state support. And it is better to support those who need it for whatever reason and keep the economy running, than to give 1000 USD to every citizen.
You just quoted that - but it‘s bullshit. The author is making stuff up. Like his seemingly very own definition of „gainful employment“ (most public sector workers are gainfully employed)
Quite more than two fifths, innit?
So do you count all private employees as „productively working“?
I can tell you from first-hand experience that they‘re not (all).
I don’t think Russia / Putin are longing to go to war.
I think they want (or prefer) peaceful “annexation” of these territories - or at least peaceful transition into Russian puppet state(hood). And peaceful but armed deterrence against NATO expansion.
Both the public and private sectors are pretty good at creating “not that useful” employment. How many of us find time to read and answer on these boards during work hours, for example? Some private sectors are counterproductive too: the tobacco industry, addictive gaming/gambling apps, private data gathering, etc.
My thesis is that one of the problem we, as a developed society, are currently facing is that too many people (me included) have too much money and too much time, leading to misallocation of capital (and the creation of problems during their free time, for other people to solve). I’d take 10 farmers over 1 Facebook app developper, the later is probably paid more than the formers, though.
Which would make sense, Russia recognized (annexed) double the territory controlled by pro Russian factions (in addition to breaking Minsk agreement).
Putin also clearly stated that Ukraine as a whole was not legitimate and only a puppet for the west. And as he wrote in the past “true sovereignty of Ukraine is possible only in partnership with Russia”, which doesn’t sound like having much of a sovereignty.
I tend to agree with your analysis of the situation.
Zelenskyy is not your standard politician and is able to think out of the box. But the others there can hardly able to do anything beyond their usual polittalk.
Putin was VERY direct about excluding Ukraine out of the NATO and keep it as a buffer zone. The world does not need another NATO vs Russia war that would be a lose-lose.
The US has proven to be largely useless in recent times of “protecting” other people, Afghans, Kurds, Syrians. They don’t have to do anything in Ukraine, it’s not their war. They’re happy to sell their defense inventory though, 'cause those will need to be backfilled in the US eventually, which is good for business back home.
The way I see it is that Ukraine is probably lost and the West will do nothing about it, other than condemning, which is BS if you ask me. Putin will trip the government in Ukraine and make it into a Russian Puppet State (like Belarus) instead of an “American puppet state” the claims UA to be.
Grant semi-authority to these lands that they were requesting for long, as well as Crimea, on condition of swapping Russian “Peacekeeping troops” with UN ones. Allow multi-language schools, etc.
Sign a declaration that you are not wanting to enter NATO for the foreseeable time (~10 yrs).
Keep the DMZ as long as needed or deemed safe (like N and S Korea).
Not sure the Bear will wait for this to happen, though.
You all live in Switzerland and no one ever mentioned the swiss way.
The best solution is (was?) to have a land with more than one official language, with some sort of independence. That was the solution to problem 1 (probably the less important for everyone outside Ukraine). So easy but everyone missed it.
The solution to the other real issues is harder:
Problem 1. Nato near Russia: Putin is unfortunately right. They promised and then “forgot”. Solution: Ukraine is buffer and make pact with Nato and Russia for protection against the other, but no forces of Nato/Russia inside them. US was so pissed when USSR was trying to get missles in Cuba, right?
Problem 2. Gas. There is no solution for this, other than keep buying and teach all those “green” parties that they should shut tf up and understand politics (and how nuclear work/could work). What could EU do now? Publish a 10 year (tight) plan to stop buying gas from Russia. At that point they will only be able to sell it to China.
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