Alpian - New Private Banking Fintech in Switzerland

Hello Kawansky,

Thank you for your feedback!

I’m Luca from Alpian’s Wealth Management team. Could you please clarify which fees you are referring to? I can assure you that we do not apply any registration fees.

Regarding your experience with our customer service, please don’t hesitate to reach out to us again via chat. We’ll do our best to understand what happened and assist you further. I also want to sincerely apologize if your experience with our support team fell short of expectations.

Have a great day.

Luca

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Hi @Luca_Alpian

I’m referring to some charges that were debited from my account, labeled as “tax” in the app. When I click on them to see more details, the description “droits d’inscription” appears. This seems both confusing and contradictory to the information you provided.

Could it be the automatic deduction of 35% taxes on the interest credited to the account? If that’s the case, it should be clearly stated as such.

Also, while I have your attention, is there any update on when a native TWINT integration might be available?

Thanks in advance for your response.
~Kaw

ooh sheesh… I did not order the card yet.
buggers. Now I’m back to square one. :smiley:

Edit: regarding taxes, I see that Alpian takes the 35% tax from interest even if interests are lower than 200chf. Some other banks used to do that (Raiffeisen) but then changed. Most of the banks I know don’t do that below 200chf. Also it’s not clearly stated (or maybe it’s me because it’s all in english.)

Side note: Does anyone know if it’s possible to change the app’s language? My phone is in english but I don’t like to have all documents in english

This depends on how the interests are paid. If interests are paid under the year (quarterly/monthly for instance), than withholding tax applies also under 200 CHF. Only if the interest is paid yearly, you are excempted of the withholding tax.

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Der typische Alpian-Kunde ist 40 Jahre jung und verfügt über ein investierbares Kapital von mindestens 100’000 Franken.

Die Grenze von 100 Millionen verwalteter Vermögen wurde bis Mitte Jahr schon mal überschritten.

lol… “Die Neon-Bank”

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Running in your Natel!

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Hello Kawansky,

Indeed, the “tax” transaction is the 35% of lump sum taxes.

I just raised the point to our internal team, and I can confirm that the right spelling for this transaction will be amended as soon as possible. Thank you for the feedback!

Regarding Twint, I can just say that it’s not already on our roadmap and should not be available this year. Please keep in mind that things can evolve during the year, and we will always communicate transparently about that.

Thank you for the trust.

Luca
Wealth Advisor

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Hello ma0,

To change the app language please do it directly into your device settings.

For Iphone:

  1. Open Settings Iphone app
  2. Scroll down and select Apps
  3. Find Alpian in the list
  4. Choose the language at the bottom

For android:

  1. On your device, open your Settings app.
  2. Tap System Languages. App Languages.
  3. Select the app you want to change.
  4. Choose a language.

Hope that will help you.

All the best!

Luca
Wealth Advisor

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Hallo @Luca_Alpian thanks for your reply.

To add to your simple tutorial:
On a Samsung Android:
Settings->General Management->App Languages.

Unfortunately the Alpian app is not on the list.

Thanks

On a very-side-note: Gray on Black isn’t always the best color scheme. You should get some more older beta testers :slight_smile:

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Feedback on Alpian:

While the technical side works well, with a decent exchange rate and a fairly user-friendly app, there are a few major drawbacks: the lack of native Twint integration, an incompetent customer support team, and a serious lack of communication.

It’s been over a month since I requested the closure of my account. After receiving an automated email stating that the process could take up to 30 days, I’ve noticed that even this timeframe hasn’t been respected. My account is still active despite multiple follow-ups (twice via chat and once by phone). @Luca_Alpian

My next step will be to send a written letter, as it’s simply impossible to close an account directly through the app - a surprising limitation for a bank claiming to be fully digital.

Overall, my experiences with neobanks have been mixed. While the technical side generally works well, customer service is often non-existent (with the exception of Neon, which responds quickly).

Personally, I wouldn’t recommend Alpian, Yuh, Zak, or even Neon as a primary account. An old teacher of mine used to say: “If it’s free, you are the product,” and “Cheap always ends up costing too much.” Unfortunately, I have to admit he was right.

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Interesting

I opened an account few days back. So far I find customer service quite responsive to my questions (chat function)

It’s a pity that no native Twint. I am trying to activate prepaid Twint which is taking a bit of time as they need time to verification (TWINT is taking time)

I will provide feedback after few months.
I never intended to have Alpian or any Fintech as main bank account, so perhaps my expectations are different too.

I’ve tested all the mentioned services but never used any as my main account - only as a backup or for daily payments with minimal deposits.

The only service I can confidently recommend is CSX, which I used daily for an extended period without issues. Their customer service is excellent, even on weekends, and far more responsive than other neobanks.

Ranking from best to worst:

  1. Neon: Reliable with responsive support, but unannounced daytime maintenance is a drawback.
  2. Zak: Similar to Neon, with branch access, but harder-to-reach support and outdated paper processes.
  3. Alpian: Works fine but lacks Twint, phone support, and has poor customer service. Only ranked third for its better exchange rates.
  4. Yuh: Functional, but support is absent, exchange rates are high, and the app’s flashy design isn’t appealing.

This reflects my experience, though opinions may vary.

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I used it as well and it is/was a very good app.
Unfortunately, the future of CSX is uncertain since it is expected, that Key4 will replace CSX, soon.

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They have a nr. to call, I wouldn’t call it absent, no? Yes it’s annoying and the support you get is often more like a ‘receptionist’ who calms you down and forwards messages rather than being able to solve the problem.

Have you ever tried calling the support line? It’s a complete disaster… If only there were an option to get a callback, but it doesn’t seem to be (yet?) possible.

I did, but it has been a while. If i recall correctly, it was quite long in a queue but in the end someone picked up.

But yeah, it wasn’t a smooth experience.

Looks like these days Alpian is reaching out for the low-hanging fruits: people like me who never completed the onboarding process.

I wonder why they don’t accept funding from moustachian banks :thinking:

January is the perfect opportunity to start off on the right foot… And why not with a little financial help? You have already finalized the account opening process at Alpian and we would like to help you activate your relationship:

  1. Validate your account by signing the banking contract directly in your mobile app.

  2. Transfer at least CHF 500 as an initial deposit* to benefit from the following conditions**:

  • CHF 150 welcome bonus
  • CHF 150 investment bonus

*Note: Deposits from Yapeal, Wise, Neon, Revolut or PayPal do not work for account activation.
**This offer replaces and cannot be combined with previous promotions.

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This is so stupid. Someone who is very mustachian, will find it very easy to send this amount to a friend + 10CHF to send it from their UBS account.

Or is it only allowed if the account at UBS is held in your name? That would at least not make the condition completely useless.

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I believe because they want to ensure that you have gone through a more rigorous KYC process at traditional bank.

I see this more as outsourcing of KYC work

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