About 100k CHF cash, shall I park it with Interactive Brokers or UBS savings account?

Investing / Brokers
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I already have all my net worth invested in different individual stocks with IB, 70% US stocks, 10% Swiss stock and 20% others.

While waiting for opportunities, where shall I park my CHF cash?

https://www.ubs.com/ch/en/private/interest-rates.html

Thanks!

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Consider wiLLBe too (1.3% up to 50k)

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Check the money market fund topic. You can buy many at IB.

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UBS has a maximum withdrawal of 50k per year (without costs), so not ideal. Even PF does better.

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Nobody can seriously answer this.

Your investment horizon is this week and it needs to be liquid? Invest in CHF.

Your investment horizon is 6 months and it needs to be liquid? Invest in X.

Your investment horizon is 2 years and it needs to me mostly liquid? Invest in Y.

Your investmetn horizon is … well, you get the gist.

Good luck.

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Since you talked about “parking the cash”, I would assume you really mean parking which means it needs to be available at short notice.

If you expect cash to be available without any notice period , then your best option is money market funds or 1M fixed deposits at the banks.

Money market funds are available at IB / SQ
They are also available at your banks but they might charge heavy custody fees which would reduce the yield.

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yes, you have understood what I meant. at attractive valuation, I will probably use the money to buy individual stocks in the future.

I am just a bit worried the concentration/default risk with IB, in case it goes under one day, becasue most of my net worth is with IB, although currently the portfolio consists of 85% of stocks and 15% of cash.

For the moment I just plan to choose among the 2 options I mentioned but I don’t know which one is better.

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Actually for UBS, you have two options

  • Savings account where you can withdraw max 50K per year without notice period of 3M. The interest rate drops for amounts above 50K.
  • Fixed deposits ( 1M, 2M, 3M) . For fixed deposits., the rate is offered by calling the relationship manager

If I were you, I wouldn’t put all my money at IB.

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How much? How liquid, i.e. how long should it take for money to be back at your bank account?

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in 24 hours, like with IB or UBS cash acount that i can transfer it and receive in IB in less than 24 hours.

BTW It seems even our stock brokers get bankruot, the stocks we own via them are still safe?

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In this case, I agree, your best options are Fintech apps, radicant/Yuh/Alpian etc.

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thanks, I do have Yuh, why do you receommend Yuh over IB in cash or UBS savings account?

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My guess is that because it is faster to withdraw from the Fintech apps vs IB and that other options have better interest rates than the UBS savings account.

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And also because you receive 1% interest on cash, with no withdrawal cap or limit.
I don’t know of any other account that offers such high interest with so much flexibility. This isn’t the case with UBS, and cash deposited directly on IB doesn’t earn such a high interest rate.

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I just saw this post from another thread

anyone have experience transfer CHF from wiLLBe to IBKR? 1. can you transfer directly without passing by a Swiss bank like UBS? 2. if you make the order before 5pm on day 1, would you receive the money on IBKR the next morning?

Thanks