Tax optimization: Retroactive purchases into pillar 3a

As complicated as this gets, it would make for a good example of another @anon95353169 calculator.
Like entering projected taxable income in the next 10 years (+ canton) and then suggest when and how much should/could be postponed rather than paid immediately.
If you have a salary raise of 5%, it might not be worth to pay the previous year immediately, but you have to wait until 9 years later etc.

However, it gets very complicated and many variables may change within the timeframe of 10 y. So ATM, I would probably not intentionally postpone, unless there are other factors in a given year that prevent me from paying in.

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If you don‘t pay into 3a in 2025 and delay it to 2034, you‘re missing out on 2k tax savings that could have been invested and probably doubled in that timeframe.

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And let’s not forget that in 2034, you won’t be able to buy back all the lost years.

The repurchase is capped to the 3A “small contribution” or CHF 7258 for 2025/2026.

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What about independent workers?
My wife use to make 70k a year and contribute 14k on Viac 60 world.
Will it be capped at 7’500 per year as employees?

We have just bought a house that we are gently renovating the next 3 years. Moreover she is currently pregnant and will reduce a bit it’s activity before the child go to school.

Since we will deduct some of money already as rénovation cost+child care I think it would be a good idea not to contribute for 3 to 4 years.

Maybe just a bit like 300chf a month 100% equities just in case the crazy bull run continues :sweat_smile:

On my side I’ll carry on my monthly DCA on VT

The reason why I plan to delay 3a payments indefinitely is because of the uncertainty on the taxes on withdrawal. I prefer to resume only when this is clarified.

Yeah, you will not lose much, since it‘s only CHF 7k a year.

But in my opinion there will be no big change, withdrawal taxes will probably still have a preferred rate.

The independent workers will only be able to buy back the small Pillar 3a contribution for the lost year, i.e. CHF 7258 for 2025, for example. The law makes no provision for buying back more than the small Pillar 3a contribution.

Since the idea of a taxation change is out, I am a bit concerned that 3a starts to be seen as a source of money, by means of taxes, to fix the other pillars. A bit like pillar 2 now has a redistribution component although it was supposed to be based on individual savings.

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Does that mean: If you make 70k a year as independent if you contribute 7k in 2025, you can still contribute 7k in 2034 for the 2025 period?

Anyway I’ll ask the taxman from Gemeinde and Kanton in January

I think so, as long as you max out the regular contribution in 2034 as well.

Hi there

As of now, 2025, retroactive purchases into pillar 3a are allowed up to 10 years in the past (2025 onward). See, e.g.:

IMO this opens new strategies for tax optimization:

  • Intentional suspending the 3a contribution in years with high tax deductibles (e.g. home renovations) …
  • Intentional suspending the 3a contribution in years with low income (e.g. traveling) …

… and a retroactive purchase for the suspended year in a following year under “normal” conditions seems better off.

Any thoughts?

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Hello,

Buy back will start from this year.
Few thesis have been discussed in this other thread
https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/pillar-3a-in-the-future-maybe-additional-payment-possible/3961/212?u=funnydjo

I’m not sure how this works in practice e.g. let’s say I don’t pay any 3a contribution in 2025. Then I decide I want to pay a 3a contribution in 2026. Do I have to pay 2026 contribution before paying the older 2025 year or vice versa?

What if I am not working in 2026? Does the eligibility for the 2025 year rest with the working status in 2025 or 2026 or both?

Yes, only after you pay the maximum for 2026, you will be able to pay something for 2025.

You need to have an income both in 2025 and 2026.

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This seems to undercut one of the reasons for the measure. I thought it would be of most use for those who became unemployed and so couldn’t contribute in one year due to lack of funds etc. and then able to rectify later on.

Quick google research:


Purchases into pillar 3a from 2026 – OBT

Unemployment benefits are subject to OASI and you’re allowed to contribute to 3a during that time. So I don’t see an issue (unless you’re unemployed long enough to no longer get any benefits).

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Studying or travelling would be a problem.

But even a short job during semester break solves this. E.g. you work for 1 month in the summer and earn 4k, then you could skip 3a buy-in and wait until end of studies.

But only 20% of the insured AHV salary.

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