# Should I buy TSLA shares?
**URL:** https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836
**Category:** Investing / Portfolios
**Created:** [May 12, 2020, 11:23am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836 "2020-05-12T11:23:10Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@arthur](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/arthur)
#### Post date: [February 14, 2021, 5:16pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/907 "2021-02-14T17:16:53Z")
Me neither and i can only applaud his willingness to do so.
I am very curious to see how this play turns out nevertheless.
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### Author:  [@SwissTeslaBull](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/SwissTeslaBull)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 8:23am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/908 "2021-02-16T08:23:43Z")
@San_Francisco did you do your homework?
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### Author:  [@SwissTeslaBull](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/SwissTeslaBull)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 8:44am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/910 "2021-02-16T08:44:04Z")
Btw Gary sold his position because he does not agree with the BTC assets but would never short.
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### Author:  [@Zerte2](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Zerte2)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 9:14am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/911 "2021-02-16T09:14:25Z")
Probably the safest bet currently about Tesla is not to bet anything, neither long nor short.
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### Author:  [@dbu](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/dbu)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 9:31am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/912 "2021-02-16T09:31:22Z")
Not to bet is always the safest “bet”, regardless of Tesla. 😁
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### Author:  [@arthur](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/arthur)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 9:34am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/913 "2021-02-16T09:34:14Z")
Would be nice to have a RemindMe! bot in this forum 🙂
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### Author:  [@ma0](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/ma0)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/914 "2021-02-16T15:48:38Z")
I remember when someone on this forum suggested us to register to a site that gave some bitcoin to read stuff here and there… I think I should have 0.1x bitcoin there if it still exists…
Better not to remember 😃
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### Author:  [@San\_Francisco](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/San_Francisco)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 4:07pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/915 "2021-02-16T16:07:15Z")
> [@SwissTeslaBull](#):
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> did you do your homework?
1. I don’t drive
2. Earnings are meaningless, since the stock price is practically decoupled from earnings anyway
3. That’s the point: How do I ask 10 TSLA owners, if I don’t even know one? Nobody I know does.
Hardly a surprise, given that Tesla is a small car manufacturer that doesn’t sell very many cars.
> [@Zerte2](#):
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> Probably the safest bet currently about Tesla is not to bet anything, neither long nor short.
Agreed.
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### Author:  [@Zerte2](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Zerte2)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 5:06pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/916 "2021-02-16T17:06:59Z")
Right. But we are _always_ betting something (i.e. doing some assumption about the future) 🙂 .
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### Author:  [@Bojack](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Bojack)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 5:27pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/917 "2021-02-16T17:27:27Z")
Another Thunderf00t video:
[ ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TxkE_oYrjU)
An interesting watch, yet I see some loopholes in his logic.
- for commercial flights by a rocket to succeed, they would need to send that rocket flying 10x per day. Thunderfoot goes on to induce that the demand for long haul flights would have to grow 10 times. Why? SpaceX can just take customers from existing airlines. Still, I just can’t imagine that we will see commercial earth-to-earth travel by a rocket.
- he shows a chart where launch costs of SpaceX did not decrease over the years and claims that US govt overpays by a lot when ordering SpaceX deliveries. Why? Why would US govt overpay? Maybe cause the only alternative would be to pay Russians.
All in all, I am very skeptical of Hyperloop, Starship intercontinental flights and Boring tunnels. I am however quite excited about Starlink Internet. It actually looks legit, but let’s see how it performs when people start using it.
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### Author:  [@MrCheese](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/MrCheese)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 5:58pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/918 "2021-02-16T17:58:57Z")
> [@Bojack](#):
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> Still, I just can’t imagine that we will see commercial earth-to-earth travel by a rocket.
Why? I’d certainly be a customer because the 18h+ trip to Mexico to visit my wifes family is certainly a pain in the butt. I’d be willing to pay up to 2.5k per person for a round trip (vs. ~900 CHF on todays Economy class).
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### Author:  [@Bojack](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Bojack)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/919 "2021-02-16T18:09:04Z")
Me too, but just think that you need to accelerate a rocket to 10 km/s and the stop it, all within 30-40 minutes. The launch will cause huge noise and disturbance in the atmosphere. I guess if at all possible, the launchpad sites would be limited to sea/ocean coast. Then there’s the safety issue. And somehow all this should cost just a few thousand $?
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### Author:  [@SwissTeslaBull](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/SwissTeslaBull)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/920 "2021-02-16T19:19:28Z")
Don’t tell them about your stacks
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### Author:  [@San\_Francisco](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/San_Francisco)
#### Post date: [February 16, 2021, 7:29pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/921 "2021-02-16T19:29:16Z")
> [@Zerte2](#):
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> But we are _always_ betting something
Us common apes can’t afford _not_ to.
> [@MrCheese](#):
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> I’d be willing to pay up to 2.5k per person for a round trip (vs. ~900 CHF on todays Economy class).
Recalling my physics lessons, that doesn’t make much of a market for earthbound space trips then
…or spacebound earth trips? Which one is it?
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### Author:  [@Carcosa](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Carcosa)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2021, 7:24am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/922 "2021-02-17T07:24:22Z")
> [@Bojack](#):
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> All in all, I am very skeptical of Hyperloop, Starship intercontinental flights and Boring tunnels. I am however quite excited about Starlink Internet. It actually looks legit, but let’s see how it performs when people start using it.
First of all I must admit I have not done any research and I don’t have any knowledge about the topic.
But I do have a friend who has done a lot of it.
He thinks Starlink is a terrible idea : it will fill the space with (even more) satellites and will interfere with space observation, to the point that will make us blind to detect any asteroid with Earth collision route.
[https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/starlink-already-threatens-optical-astronomy-now-radio-astronomers-are-worried](https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/10/starlink-already-threatens-optical-astronomy-now-radio-astronomers-are-worried)
I guess there could be a solution, since Elon seems to be very keen on space colonization (based on his last podcast with Rogan)
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### Author:  [@Bojack](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Bojack)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2021, 8:13am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/923 "2021-02-17T08:13:14Z")
We shall see how it goes. Indeed it’s hard to tell anything if you’re not an expert. Intuition tells me that a few thousand boxes flying scattered around the Earth is nothing. Moreover, we should place our telescopes in space if we want the least obstructed measurement.
Regarding space garbage, the damage has already been done. There are countless shards flying around in the orbit. They are potential threats to rocket launches.
Btw I wonder if authoritarian regimes like North Korea or China will try to obstruct access to Starlink satellites. Right now you just need a device and boom, you can bypass any national firewall.
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### Author:  [@SwissTeslaBull](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/SwissTeslaBull)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2021, 9:52am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/924 "2021-02-17T09:52:17Z")
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### Author:  [@ma0](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/ma0)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2021, 10:26am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/925 "2021-02-17T10:26:02Z")
> [@Bojack](#):
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> will try to obstruct access to Starlink
I think in Russia is already illegal.
Quick google result:
> **[Russia may fine citizens for using SpaceX's Starlink internet. Here's how the...](https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-may-fine-citizens-spacex-starlink-internet-authoritarian-regime-2021-1?r=US&IR=T)**
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> "Satellite potentially turns the tables because the government doesn't control space," a telecom analyst at GlobalData told Insider.
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### Author:  [@SwissTeslaBull](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/SwissTeslaBull)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2021, 10:28am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/926 "2021-02-17T10:28:44Z")
Ok now i get this tweet
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### Author:  [@Bojack](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Bojack)
#### Post date: [February 17, 2021, 10:45am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/should-i-buy-tsla-shares/3836/927 "2021-02-17T10:45:32Z")
> [@ma0](#):
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> I think in Russia is already illegal.
That’s trivial. How are you going to chase illegal users in such huge countries? Just smuggle the device and place it out of sight.
Starlink may agree to funnel all traffic over Russia, China through their firewalls, which I hope they don’t do. China could retaliate by becoming hostile towards Tesla (not the same company but it would work). But what I’m really wondering is if China or Russia could shoot off Starlink satellites or obstruct the communication by jamming the signal?
And then there’s another question: if we assume that the orbit is legally off limits and it’s economically unviable to keep shooting Starlink satellites off, then where should Starlink be based in order to guarantee the highest independence of their Internet? USA has a strong army, but it also has NSA & CIA, which would gladly have backdoors into Starlink infrastructure.
So if Starlink wants to be free, unrestricted and neutral, where can they go? Switzerland? 😅 I guess not, because I’m sure the Swiss wouldn’t like to make China angry. It would have to be a country that would not be afraid of tarnishing their relations with China or US.
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