Should I buy SPCX shares?

I have to admit that I’ve become a SpaceX fanboy over the last years. I am impressed by the number of industries Elon Musk has forced to subsidize his learning curve simply by entering them. Looking back, it’s hard to find another founder who has consistently dragged entire sectors years forward against their better judgment and basic financial sanity.
To recap, here are some of Musk’s disruptions:

  • PayPal, making online payments mainstream before getting ousted by his own board for trying to run a global financial network on Windows NT
  • SpaceX, reducing launch costs to levels legacy aerospace companies said were impossible, provided you don’t count the billions in government lifelines keeping it afloat
  • Falcon 9 reusability, fundamentally changing the economics of orbital access by turning rocket science into an expensive demolition derby until the landing math finally checked out
  • Starlink, building a globally accessible low-latency internet network from orbit, effectively giving a single billionaire personal veto power over international military operations based on his mood swings
  • Starship, potentially becoming the first commercially scalable interplanetary transport system, assuming we solve the minor issue of the latest versions still occasionally vaporizing on camera
  • NASA partnerships, turning a private company into the backbone of U.S. human spaceflight because Uncle Sam literally had no other ride to the space station
  • Tesla electric vehicles, forcing the entire auto industry into EV transition mode by pioneering cars with cutting-edge software and panel gaps wide enough to swallow a smartphone
  • Tesla batteries and energy storage, pressuring traditional utility models with solar roofs that cost more than the house itself and historically had a slight tendency to catch fire
  • Tesla direct sales, bypassing dealership networks so consumers can experience the unique privilege of navigating customer service exclusively through a broken smartphone app
  • The Boring Company, attempting to reduce infrastructure costs by digging a single-lane neon ditch in Las Vegas to create a subterranean traffic jam for Teslas
  • Neuralink, exploring high-bandwidth interfaces between humans and machines, which is progressing beautifully if you overlook the early casualty rate of laboratory monkeys
  • OpenAI, originally launched to ensure AI would develop safely and openly — before he sued them for actually becoming successful without him
  • xAI, because apparently the AI alignment debate needed a Grok chatbot trained specifically to scrape memes and data from his own social media platform
  • Mars colonization, still sounding insane, except now we’ve accepted that a radioactive, oxygen-free desert is apparently our primary backup plan for a bad news cycle

I watched countless interviews, launch streams, engineering breakdowns, and factory tours on SpaceX over the years, and what impresses me most is the execution culture. Unlike most public companies, they seem optimized around breaking things quickly instead of boring things like worker safety or quarterly profits.

I am convinced the traditional aerospace industry is structurally unprepared for what SpaceX has already become. Most incumbents still operate on cost-plus assumptions while SpaceX behaves more like a vertically integrated software company that forces its users to beta-test hardware while traveling at Mach 25.

I am seriously considering whether I should not put 10–20% of my portfolio into SpaceX if the IPO actually happens. I know the valuation will probably look absurd on day one. People will say it’s overpriced, overhyped, impossible to justify with fundamentals.

But we heard the exact same thing about Tesla before the Cybertruck met reality.

And if SpaceX delivers on even a fraction of what they are attempting — Starlink scale, Starship reusability, lunar infrastructure, defense contracts, Mars logistics — I honestly don’t see why it could not become one of the most important black holes for venture capital of this century.

Yes, it’s risky to put serious money into a single company. Especially one trying to industrialize space travel while simultaneously picking fights with regulatory bodies and international governments on social media.

But then again, who else is even trying to lose billions at this scale?

If you believe humanity becomes multiplanetary because Earth is getting too exhausting, if you believe launch costs continue collapsing under the weight of sheer willpower, if you believe orbital infrastructure becomes as strategically important as a billionaire’s internet feed, then it’s difficult to argue there is a better positioned company than SpaceX.

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If you want to buy the most overvalued stock in history, sure.

my personal opinion: the traditional way of supporting a company by buying stocks is not the right approach for an idea like SpaceX. But I don’t know enough about SpaceX to provide any alternative. Maybe invest in some startups around SpaceX. I guess SpaceX itself doesn’t have a Patreon account :slight_smile:

I’m also a massive fanboy, and I’ve been looking for ways to invest in SpaceX for many years (there were a couple of mutual funds holding it, unfortunately I never did).

I saw in the last couple of days an extract from their prospectus where they were claiming the following markets:

Space: 300m

satellite internet: 1.6T

AI: 21T

The second I saw the 21T AI, my “bullshit” alarm went off.

I personally believe Starship is a groundbreaking technology, and it could very well deliver on the valuation, but I cant in good faith invest when they’re AI hyping like that.

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I bought through XOVR etf and will switch to SpaceX directly in December and buy more.

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were you happy with your investment in XOVR?

I’ve just read my post for the first time. It was not the expected quality, my apologies.

Edit: there’s a version 2 of original post and moved to coffee.

If you want to discuss SPCX seriously I guess the stock pickers thread’s a better place.

It could eventually end up with a (serious) dedicated thread if debate catches up.

Now, reread the post and enjoy your coffee break.

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Well that certainly went way over my head lol

That doesn’t mean his companies are sound investments (unless you’re a pre-IPO insider).

While Musk may, at some point, have been invested in or involved with the names you’ve dropped, you’re way overstating his actual influence or input on most.

I guess you have to give him credit on Tesla and its execution and profitability (although the stock is notoriously overvalued), but most others are unprofitable, failing businesses and/or pipe dreams.

Some if which he cleverly folded into his never, more successful ventures (energy storage into Tesla, xAI into SpaceX, etc.), at often inflated prices. He may attempt that again with SpaceX swallowing up Tesla.

The sky is the limit, they say. And given how Musk is now reaching for it (space, literally) with his IPO, he’ll eventually run out of even bigger schemes.

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Thanks for your comment. I used reliable sources from 2020 and I admit I asked AI to be as accurate as possible as of today.

Also the post is a benchmark to get how much people read before answering, especially when there are large chunks of info.

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It‘s okay, I‘m +5.3%.

But I mainly bought it to participate in SpaceX, and not because of the other components. But in my eyes, they are solid as well.

This is a fair point.

At the end of the day, if SpaceX and Tesla were worthless, what is even his net worth?

installed a starlink even though i dont use it. That was my contribution

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OK I must admit I liked and LOL’d on this.

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Bold guess. but I think after the Spcx, Open AI, Anthropic IPO, stock markets will not perform well for many years.

Stock picking is always a gamble. Period. I’m sure most people on this forum understand that. That’s why we have the Nasdaq 100 as an alternative.

One thing I can say though: Companies like SpaceX and the big AI providers have the potential to mono-/duo-/triopolize not just national markets or specific industry sectors, but multiple industry sectors on a global level.

A company like SpaceX could hypothetically replace nearly all telecom service providers, mobile carriers, etc.

As for AI companies…well…I don’t expect any industry to be unaffected. Unlike the Internet and the WWW, which were gifted to the public, so to speak, the current revolution is proprietary.

Considering the enormous stakes, it is difficult to know whether those stocks are undervalued or overvalued. In other words, seemingly overpriced companies can seem less so when compared against the entire value of the market(s) that they could potentially mono-/duo-/triopolize. I think even looking at fundamentals only could be a bit short-sighted in this case.

I would dare to say that the stocks of legacy companies that are at the highest risk of being displaced in the near future are a much more risky bet.

But that said, stock picking is always gambling, with winners and losers.

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…if they didn’t already exist and I couldn’t get unlimited internet and calls already for CHF 10 or so a month. With better on-the-ground coverage than a Nazi-saluting cryptocapitalist clown provides with his satellites.

It currently looks like that (in a somewhat dystopian way), but let’s not forget that the foundations, concepts and models of AI technology aren’t entirely new - nor proprietary.

If anything, I’m currently seeing a bottleneck in building/making infrastructure for demanding applications (i.e. compute power) - at least that’s what markets are suggesting. Not a bottleneck in AI models.

xAI isn’t making the GPUs or CPUs (the intellectual property) nor is their software irreplaceable.

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Two more points to add fir.. informration to this discussion.

  1. Even on yahoo finance there is an article about spacex being the tool for musk to gain control back on tesla by buying it
  2. Did you know that Honda makes reusable rockets? (They got a successful test last year)

if you compare Amazon and SpaceX market cap/Valuation vs Revenue, it’s crazy

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don’t make me do the work. :wink:

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