Postfinance new pension funds: is it a suicide?

Thanks, the tool would like nice, but alas…

CSIF Quality ex CH - not found.
iShares World Quality - found but not able to compare.
UBS doesn’t seem to have a “world ex CH” based quality factor ETF (wtf?!)

I’m way too frustrated with Swiss Funds and ETF to look further… :triumph:

Passive ones available, up to 100% equities. No ESG. Still huge TER.

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0.74 vs 1.1 .
Well they are lower :slight_smile:
(I checked the ESG 25)

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Passive 100 is 0.87, includes a 0.65 (!) sales “remuneration” for PF (!!). It’s UBS. Mostly hedged, since it’s 75% CHF.

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0.74 for (new) passive non-esg 25, 1.12 for ESG 25:

Thanks for adding that 0.02 that I forgot :smiley:
Edit: tbh you are right, one is ESG the other is not. I should have written the “pension 25” to group both

How much is that in fees if you think of your great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren?!

More seriously I read your comment as ESG 25 is now 0.74. The ESG are the most expensive ones, the new “passive non-ESG” are cheaper.

Ah, so they brought back the non-ESG Pension funds.
Fools!
They forced Pension 100 ESG on everyone in 2022, with that sh*tty TER of 1.3%, “We now offer only ESG because we are listening to our customers who all want ESG.” that kind of talk.
Seems 3y later enough have left, to make them re-consider. I won’t be back.