cleaning the lint filter and emptying the water tray is the most satisfying part!
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I believe, this uses way more electricity than a dryer /heatpump drier
about the water tray: usually the drier is places close to the washing machine. so simply detach the water hose on the back of the tray and connect it to the piping from the washing machine.
no more balancing around the full water tray
Just got our quarterly bill from EBL, 255 CHF for a family of 4, good insulation, and we donât go light on the cooking, lighting, washing and drying 
Based on available bills from EKZ.
Some background:
- Two person (+ one frenchie ) household, 5.5-rooms, 158m2. Construction year 2004.
- Replaced all lights with LED mid 2022.
- As one can see, we normally use most of the electricity during the low tarif (e.g. TV starting ca. 7 p.m., washing/drying clothes, dishwasher, etc.). During daytime normally only one or two laptops are running, with a max. of three additional monitors.
- I would say, pre 2022 the kWh usage was pretty insane, compared to todayâs numbers - lesser big fluctuations since we also had a mild winter, probably, I donât know. We are heating with district heating (went away from gas heating somewhere mid 2023).
- So the total electricity consumption for 2022 was 2â609 kWh and for 2023 2â326 kWh. For this year, the numbers look more or less the same, so I expect to have the same consumption - but with much higher costs, as one can see.
- We do not possess a lot or crazy electronics. But what definitely has an impact is cloth dryer; since my GF is allergic various kind of pollen and during winter it does not make much sense dry the clothes outside, we basically use this device a lot.
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Low tariff 7pm? Where do you live?
In ZH low is 10pm-6am.
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Yeah, I meant more, that I am not watching TV during the day, but more likely after the work and after dinner. I am not waiting until 10 p.m. to watch Netflix 
Should have been more precise.
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In Basel low tariff is 8pm-6am.
Actually the joke should be in the opposite direction. We are so early home that they have to limit our low tarif. They work so much that they can leave it at 8pm since none is at home at that time.
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Weâve not had night pricing for years in lower Wallis. 
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Night pricing will probably disappear in the near future.
What might come though is :
-Winter/Summer pricing (already have seen it). Energy in Summer will be nearly free (we are talking about 4 cts/ kWh already in 2027, whereas in winter we are looking at approx. 20 cts/kWh.
-Weather dependent pricing (not possible yet in Switzerland, but might come in). Already exists in France when on cold days energy prices are higher than on warmer days (In France, heating is done with electrical heating mostly).
Also, at some point the infrastructure costs will not be charged per kWh anymore but probably as a yearly flatrate (even if everyone has photovoltaic, the infrastructure has to be paid)
One big risk is how France will manage to renew its nuclear parc. The latest reactor which has just been put into service (Flamandville 3) took 12 y longer and is estimated at 19.1 billion euros instead of the planned 3.3 billion to built. France has to renew over 50 in the next decades and in my knowledge, no new reactors are in construction right now. Switzerland is dependent on the imports of electricity in winter and will not be capable to close the gap in a midterm future.
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At least the AC becomes cheaper thanks to more sun, when we need it because of more sun. 
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That is actually a reality. I mean right now SBB switches on electric track at Midday heating to âburnâ electricity in surplusâŠ
On the other hand, some cities limit the use to avoid the overheating of public space (AFAIK in Geneva it is even completely forbidden except in some special cases).
Not really, maybe a little with very efficient dryer. I havenât even compared mine, usage depends more on convenience and the type of cloths. Dryers arenât very kind to many clothesâŠ
Anyway, I thought about integrating measurement of consumption for individual users, but the cost are prohibitive. So to compare itâs down to info from the data sheets and the little info my utilities provides me. Which is basically total consumption low and high tarif while we still have those
36 kWh / month over the past 12 month reading and Iâve been paying an average of 12.5 CHF per month over the past 21 months.
I use another ~5 kWh per month with a washing machine thatâs billed separately.
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That sounds like living in the woods.
Or living with many people.
In an apartment on my own 
Looking at that table above Iâm wondering as well⊠ETA: I see now some of you have similar numbers 
I have
- a standard fridge with freezer part
- oven and induction plate
- 11 light bulbs
- smartphone
- notebook (somewhat low use but old and whacky battery)
- and the normal mischancellous assortment of electronics like headphones, hair drier, hoover, mixerâŠ
ETA: fun fact, I paid an average of 13 euros/month in my last EU apartment as well 
sadly no access to the final quote for kWh.
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Family of 4 in a little chalet in FR. 3322kWh / 1022chf for 2023.
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Family of 2 living in a house from the mid 70s, 10â000 kWh, I would not be proud to win here 
In the last year before moving from oil to heat pump was 2400kWh, we have radiators heaters so the heat pump is good but still an energy eater (the performance ratio is still around 3 so not bad).
I would be curious to see the total energy consumed by those that are still using oil or the centralized heating.
Edit: maybe some more context:
- Kitchen renovated recently, induction, fridge, oven, dishwasher (we cook 95% of our meals)
- washing machine, dehumidifier (mostly washing at 40° or 30°)
- all the most used bulbs are led
- hot water made by the same heat pump between 50°-40° with weekly set at 60° for safety reasons
- 2 days a week home office
- 1 big TV with separated receiver, 1 small NAS, wifi
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Two people living in a house, hot water and general heating come from district heat (wood waste) + a small electric radiator for one particularly cold room, used only on some rare occasions during the winter.
Annual consumption (01.07.23-30.06.24) : 2566 kWh
Total 845.05 CHF, without VAT : 783.05 CHF
Divided as :
- annual fees : 153 CHF
- price per kWh 2023 : 22.1 cts
- price per kWh 2024 : 26.9 cts
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