# How much do employers pay in payroll taxes? **URL:** \ **Category:** Taxes\ **Created:** [November 2, 2024, 7:05am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/how-much-do-employers-pay-in-payroll-taxes/14470 "2024-11-02T07:05:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Quack](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/quack/32/6971_2.png) [@Quack](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Quack)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 7:05am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/how-much-do-employers-pay-in-payroll-taxes/14470/1 "2024-11-02T07:05:57Z")
Motivated by the recent UK government budget in which employer payroll taxes are being increased, I realise I have no idea how things work here in Switzerland. Does anyone have a good understanding of all the different taxes/insurances that employers have to pay? I’m interested in the full package, i.e. if I am being employed and paid X CHF, how much on top of X is my employer paying without me realising it? ---
**Author:** ![oswand](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/oswand/32/15442_2.png) [@oswand](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/oswand)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 8:07am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/how-much-do-employers-pay-in-payroll-taxes/14470/2 "2024-11-02T08:07:43Z")
> [@Quack](#): > > payroll taxes In Switzerland there are no taxes withheld on your salary(\*\*), apart from that the company has to pay different social taxes, as do you [1]: ![image](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/uploads/default/original/2X/d/d0a8f9efc75e7b69700f2bfdbe0a340449961422.png) ![image](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/uploads/default/original/2X/4/40294133ed9fc07fedb3c3548ebdb02806c7f64a.png) Here is an example calculation: ![image](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/uploads/default/original/2X/a/aebd1af07d2914ee492c6b24b09bf482cd24b615.png) \*\* Except if you are taxed at source. [1] [You employ a domestic help: Do you know these abbreviations? AHV, IV, EO, ALV, FAK and VK - quitt.](https://quitt.ch/en/you-employ-a-domestic-help-do-you-know-these-abbreviations-ahv-iv-eo-alv-fak-and-vk/) ---
**Author:** ![Quack](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/quack/32/6971_2.png) [@Quack](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Quack)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2024, 9:51am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/how-much-do-employers-pay-in-payroll-taxes/14470/3 "2024-11-02T09:51:29Z")
Thank you, that answers my question perfectly! ---
**Author:** ![yetanothername](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/f4b2a3/32.png) [@yetanothername](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/yetanothername)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/how-much-do-employers-pay-in-payroll-taxes/14470/4 "2024-11-03T15:56:38Z")
Rule of thumb salary ranges for salary ranges that qualify for 2nd pillar: Your cost to the employer is whatever you get paid out as salary plus 30 %. ---
**Author:** ![Quack](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/quack/32/6971_2.png) [@Quack](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Quack)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 6:38pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/how-much-do-employers-pay-in-payroll-taxes/14470/5 "2024-11-03T18:38:43Z")
If i did my maths right, the example above has the additional employer costs, excluding Pensionskasse, summing to 8.7325% Minimal pensionskasse contributions by the employer range from 3.5% to 9% depending on age. So range would be roughly 12.2% to 17.7% Where do you get 30% from? ---
**Author:** ![rainpond](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/df788c/32.png) [@rainpond](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/rainpond)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2024, 8:16pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/how-much-do-employers-pay-in-payroll-taxes/14470/6 "2024-11-03T20:16:48Z")
My employer pays (according to them, so take it with a grain of salt) about 17.5%. I think what’s missing up there is [Krankentaggeld](https://www.bexio.com/de-CH/blog/view/ktg-beitrag). ---
**Author:** ![oswand](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/oswand/32/15442_2.png) [@oswand](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/oswand)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 7:19am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/how-much-do-employers-pay-in-payroll-taxes/14470/7 "2024-11-04T07:19:19Z")
> [@rainpond](#): > > I think what’s missing up there is [Krankentaggeld](https://www.bexio.com/de-CH/blog/view/ktg-beitrag). The employer doesn’t have to provide it because it’s optional. That’s why it’s not in there. ---
**Author:** ![rollerstroller](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@rollerstroller](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/rollerstroller)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 8:21am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/how-much-do-employers-pay-in-payroll-taxes/14470/8 "2024-11-04T08:21:10Z")
Oh really! I had no idea! Thank you! ---
**Author:** ![yetanothername](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/y/f4b2a3/32.png) [@yetanothername](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/yetanothername)\ **Post date:** [November 4, 2024, 8:23pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/how-much-do-employers-pay-in-payroll-taxes/14470/9 "2024-11-04T20:23:36Z")
> [@Quack](#): > > Where do you get 30% from? I calculated what I said, but apparently it was ambiguous. > [@yetanothername](#): > > whatever you get paid out as salary plus 30 % What I meant was: Your cost to the employer is: Amount that lands in your bank account + 30 %. It’s a rule of thumb. In the example above it would be roughly 31 %. It of course depends on how generous your 2nd pillar is and on the presence of a KTG.