# Future of Bitcoin

**URL:** https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750
**Category:** Investing / Cryptocurrencies
**Created:** [April 26, 2020, 10:18am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750 "2020-04-26T10:18:47Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![Dr.PI](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/dr.pi/32/5299_2.png) [@Dr.PI](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Dr.PI)
#### Post date: [September 17, 2022, 12:32pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1321 "2022-09-17T12:32:52Z")

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My wallet shows me a ETH transfer fee of less than 0.2 USD, although I haven’t actually sent anything. Is it because of the switch to PoS or there is just less activity right now?

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### Author: ![Oliv](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@Oliv](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Oliv)
#### Post date: [September 21, 2022, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1323 "2022-09-21T20:00:05Z")

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Most probably because the blocks happen in a shorter period of time with the merge. Not sure if it is by design though.

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### Author: ![Kay4rElle](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/9de053/32.png) [@Kay4rElle](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Kay4rElle)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2022, 8:34am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1325 "2022-11-09T08:34:18Z")

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This still holds true. Lets see how much pain those firms can withstand…

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### Author: ![johndoe1](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/13edae/32.png) [@johndoe1](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/johndoe1)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1326 "2022-11-09T19:17:45Z")

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Huh, what happened to BTC today?

I’m considering investing in BTC as soon as it reaches 24$, according to Saint Buffet 🤪

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### Author: ![San\_Francisco](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@San\_Francisco](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/San_Francisco)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2022, 8:17pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1327 "2022-11-09T20:17:20Z")

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> [@johndoe1](#):
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> Huh, what happened to BTC today?

[https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/09/business/bitcoin-crypto-prices-fall-ftx-binance-ctrp/index.html](https://edition.cnn.com/2022/11/09/business/bitcoin-crypto-prices-fall-ftx-binance-ctrp/index.html)

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### Author: ![Oliv](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@Oliv](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Oliv)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2022, 10:30pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1328 "2022-11-09T22:30:22Z")

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Incredible week, this will remain a landmark as why you should stay away from shitcoin. It is not over yet, Solana looks like it will be next as it is not supported by FTX anymore.

Edit: also a good time to remember why pow is so superior to pos…

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### Author: ![kraphael](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/kraphael/32/6366_2.png) [@kraphael](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/kraphael)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2022, 7:25am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1329 "2022-11-10T07:25:23Z")

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Not a POW vs POS problem IMHO. More that if you try to cover your losses by printing more of your own funny money it will end in a shit show. And if you leave your cryptos on the exchanges instead of self custody you will lose them. Those lessons will eventually be learned.

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### Author: ![Oliv](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@Oliv](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Oliv)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2022, 7:42am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1330 "2022-11-10T07:42:40Z")

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> [@kraphael](#):
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> printing more of your own funny money

That’s text book POS, you need to do actual work to create bitcoin.

Now the Solana situation is super interesting, most of the wrapped Solana that exchanges are using (like soBTC) were issued by FTX and are supposed to be 1-1 backed by real btc/eth…

But now we know that it is certainly not the case…so if you have Solana or are still using Défi platforms, you probably want to take action.

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### Author: ![kraphael](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/kraphael/32/6366_2.png) [@kraphael](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/kraphael)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2022, 7:56am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1331 "2022-11-10T07:56:53Z")

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I don’t understand Solana too well, but as far I know it’s pretty complicated to run a validator making it rather centralized. Also they had several outages before, so it doesn’t seem like a technically fully developed project yet. I stayed away from it.

I did take a bitcoin gambling position yesterday and count on a rebound today. 🤞

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### Author: ![Wolverine](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/wolverine/32/3315_2.png) [@Wolverine](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Wolverine)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2022, 4:26pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1332 "2022-11-11T16:26:18Z")

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Well, that was a nice move. I hope you have cashed out because it seems that yet another one bites the dust.

> **[Embattled Crypto Exchange FTX Files for Bankruptcy (Published 2022)](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/business/ftx-bankruptcy.html)**
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> The announcement capped a stunning week that has shocked the crypto industry.

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### Author: ![kraphael](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/kraphael/32/6366_2.png) [@kraphael](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/kraphael)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2022, 4:33pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1333 "2022-11-11T16:33:27Z")

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Got out but a bit too late…

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### Author: ![Dr.PI](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/dr.pi/32/5299_2.png) [@Dr.PI](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Dr.PI)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2022, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1334 "2022-11-11T19:01:34Z")

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There is something else interesting:

> I wanted to reassure you that the protection of our users is our key priority. That is why we announced our Binance Secure Asset Fund for Users (SAFU). The SAFU fund is an insurance fund that acts as a safety net to mitigate as much damage as possible for Binance users in the event of an emergency.

> This week, our Security team topped up our SAFU to $1 Billion, consisting of BNB, BUSD and BTC.

That means that if crypto is plunging and Binance has problems, they can use their reserves … Oh, wait…

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### Author: ![Wolverine](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/wolverine/32/3315_2.png) [@Wolverine](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Wolverine)
#### Post date: [November 11, 2022, 8:29pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1335 "2022-11-11T20:29:29Z")

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It’s fun to watch the crypto space rediscover what the rest of the finance industry has learned long before. To have any value, insurance must be provided by a trustable third party, and to offer an additional guarantee, that third party should be insured itself by yet another reliable party.

Looking forward to watching that one fall appart. My popcorn is ready.

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### Author: ![kraphael](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/kraphael/32/6366_2.png) [@kraphael](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/kraphael)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2022, 7:08am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1336 "2022-11-12T07:08:44Z")

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It’s 2008 all over again, crazy. Leverage on leverage on leverage on leverage.

 ![FhOiL5aXEBIamD9](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/uploads/default/original/2X/9/95f276a2b7d8deca309388cec29339915694e668.jpeg)

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And this is the org chart of FTX, good luck unwinding this mess 😂

 ![FhRNMhoXgAAzz4I](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/uploads/default/original/2X/1/1e1b8a9455e8938d93fe1ca914aace14b368895a.jpeg)

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### Author: ![Dr.PI](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/dr.pi/32/5299_2.png) [@Dr.PI](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Dr.PI)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2022, 8:12am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1337 "2022-11-12T08:12:01Z")

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\<_Klugscheisser Mode ein_\>

I am 99% sure that Kwon is the surname, though 🤪

\<_Klugscheisser Mode aus_\>

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### Author: ![anon21880037](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/a/b19c9b/32.png) [@anon21880037](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/anon21880037)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2022, 7:17pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1338 "2022-11-17T19:17:12Z")

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Are people still DCA into crypto here?

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### Author: ![Dr.PI](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/dr.pi/32/5299_2.png) [@Dr.PI](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Dr.PI)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1339 "2022-11-17T20:01:08Z")

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But of course. If you have decided to invest in something, stay the course. It’s the best time to invest when everyone is scared.

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### Author: ![marcel-burkhard](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/m/db5fbb/32.png) [@marcel-burkhard](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/marcel-burkhard)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2022, 8:30pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1340 "2022-11-17T20:30:15Z")

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> [@Dr.PI](#):
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> If you have decided to invest in something, stay the course.

Probably makes sense in something like VT.

> [@Dr.PI](#):
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> It’s the best time to invest when everyone is scared.

I think the idea there is that it becomes cheaper relative to the fundamental value.

The same isn’t true about Bitcoin though, as it’s not cheaper, the price is just lower. (If you catch my drift).

Nobody knows what the Bitcoin price will do next.  
Yet, many people are very certain, that it will go up again if they’re just patient enough - I see no fundamental, historical or statistical data point that backs this up. Even the silly rainbow chart is broken now with prices lower than last cycle (with regards to the mining rewards halvening).

I don’t think “investing” is the right term here.

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### Author: ![kawansky](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/kawansky/32/12982_2.png) [@kawansky](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/kawansky)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2022, 9:58pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1341 "2022-11-17T21:58:50Z")

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> [@marcel-burkhard](#):
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> I don’t think “investing” is the right term here.

We call this speculation…

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### Author: ![johndoe1](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/13edae/32.png) [@johndoe1](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/johndoe1)
#### Post date: [November 18, 2022, 12:58pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/future-of-bitcoin/3750/1342 "2022-11-18T12:58:15Z")

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What’s the genuine use case for bitcoin?

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