I have opened a Zak account (thanks @_MP for the great tutorial) and I would like to move some euro from abroad in it.
I have found this thread in the forum and I was wondering if Revolut is still the best option here.
Thank you @Neville.
I looked into and yes TransferWise looks good however I am also wondering which fees Zak applies here, I probably miss this piece of information, do you know it?
I’ve only just started looking into this question. I haven’t even gotten around to reading the blog post above. Actually, thanks for opening this thread, let’s see if others in the forum know more.
Zak will apply usual fees (i.e. none) for an incoming Swiss domestic transfer, since that is what Transferwise will use to pay out the converted funds to your account.
I made a comparison recently, including all fees and exchange rates for transfering from CHF -> EUR. I assume it’s about the same in reverse. I did effectively transfer the money and compared the conversion rates with XE at the respective date and time. So this took into account the fees and calculated the percentage after.
In first place came in Revolut. In second place was Transferwise and in third my regular bank account.
I think for any amounts that can’t be converted for free anymore IBKR will be the cheapest. If I read that correctly, it should be about 2 magnitudes below Transferwise.
Having an account with them is only free if you park over 100’000 USD there (as shares of your favorite ETF for example). I don’t have an account with them, though.
I don’t quite understand exactly what you want, eur-chf conversion or eur transfer to zak euro account?
EUR transfer via Sepa should be free, but to/from Swiss accounts someone along the way may charge something like EUR 5, nothing huge, nothing as a percentage of the amount.
If you want to transfer & exchange eur at the same time, i recommend transferwise.
SEPA prohibits “someone along the way” charging intermediary and/or third-party fees (unlike SWIFT transfers), but it does not have to be free at either end. I.e., payer’s and payee’s bank may charge fees for SEPA transfers.
On personal accounts though, many banks in the EUR have decided to offer free SEPA transfers to consumers, at least when initiated through online and other self-service channels.
I think I’ve covered it in a post of mine a while ago - but I’m unable to find it.
Sender’s bank in EU/EEA: Usual fees for outgoing SEPA transfers. Which means free on many personal accounts. AFAIK they’d be allowed to charge other (higher) fees sending to Switzerland than to other EU countries - but few if any do so, to my knowledge.
Intermediary fees: None
Bank Cler as receiving bank will convert to CHF at their foreign currency rates. I couldn’t find it easily on their web site, but will probably be 1% surcharge or something. Considerably more than TransferWise, I’d be willing to bet.
It think the only other option I am aware of that has not been mentioned on this thread is OFX. I have no personal experience with them and every time I looked it seemed more expensive than CurrencyFair.
Yeah with the new revolut limits it depends on the monthly amount. (Assuming no conversion on the weekend)
< 1250chf: revolut
1250chf < x < 2600 chf: transferwise
2600chf: revolut with premium (premium is 8.99 chf, so if transferwise fee is more, then revolut premium is worth it)
This is only in case you don’t already have an interactivebrokers account, as this would be even cheaper (but only works if you have 100k in assets with them)
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