# ARK Invest - ARK Innovation ETF (ARKK)

**URL:** <https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179>\
**Category:** Investing / Portfolios\
**Created:** [July 16, 2020, 8:50am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179 "2020-07-16T08:50:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bojack](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/bojack/32/281_2.png) [@Bojack](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Bojack)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2020, 7:27am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/24 "2020-07-26T07:27:19Z")

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Nope, I always take a long time before I make a decision. Shopping with me is a nightmare 😅

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**Author:** ![rolandinho](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/rolandinho/32/423_2.png) [@rolandinho](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/rolandinho)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 7:22am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/26 "2020-08-01T07:22:13Z")

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That’s probably all CRISPR Therapeutics, listed on Nasdaq but “home” is an office/letterbox at Aeschenvorstadt 36, 4051 Basel.

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**Author:** ![OogieBoogie](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/oogieboogie/32/2003_2.png) [@OogieBoogie](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/OogieBoogie)\
**Post date:** [August 1, 2020, 6:52pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/27 "2020-08-01T18:52:25Z")

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> [@Bojack](#):
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> spot the next technological disruption

Had ARK on my radar, like the concept to spot the next potential technological disruption and put those into a ETF basket. Square sounds great, but the real potential is probably that Jack Dorsey (CEO Twitter) is also the CEO of Square. To invest 5-10% in such ETF and diverse your portfolio would make sense in my opinion.

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**Author:** ![Lumo](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/lumo/32/2343_2.png) [@Lumo](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Lumo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2020, 3:56am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/29 "2020-12-12T03:56:45Z")

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> [@OogieBoogie](#):
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> ntial technological disruption and put those into a ETF basket. Square sounds great, but the real potential is probably that Jack Dorsey (CEO Twitter) is also the CEO of Square. To invest 5-10% in su

It does not make much sense to analyse it from a P/E perspective as many of the companies are burning cash. P/Revenue can give a better sense, o valuation but ultimately it comes down to whether they can keep up with the growth or if the technology is successful.

But yes, agree it’s probably overvalued and there will be a big correction at some point. Missing the ride up, can mean that with a potential correction (in a few months?) you will end up where we are today! No one knows.

Big correction will likely come when interest rates start increasing. Right now future cashflows have such a little discount, that it kind of makes sense the valuations spiked for growth companies.

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**Author:** ![Goyero](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/goyero/32/4382_2.png) [@Goyero](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Goyero)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 11:13am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/30 "2021-01-15T11:13:48Z")

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It looks they are going to launch an Space Race ETF (ARKX) - would you invest there?

[https://www.etftrends.com/disruptive-technology-channel/ark-files-arkx-joining-space-race/](https://www.etftrends.com/disruptive-technology-channel/ark-files-arkx-joining-space-race/)

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**Author:** ![glina](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/glina/32/820_2.png) [@glina](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/glina)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2021, 4:00pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/31 "2021-01-15T16:00:00Z")

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See this thread

> <https://twitter.com/FPTXYZ/status/1350096696433377283>

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**Author:** ![disaga87](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/d/278dde/32.png) [@disaga87](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/disaga87)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 7:25pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/32 "2021-01-28T19:25:34Z")

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Guys,  
Any of you invested finally in ARKK? I discovered this today and like the idea to include it in my portfolio. Anyone has study the fees and recommend it as a FIRE strategy? Maybe allocate 10% of my portfolio there.

Thanks

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**Author:** ![Tia\_0](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/t/71e660/32.png) [@Tia\_0](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Tia_0)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 8:56pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/33 "2021-01-28T20:56:06Z")

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I have ARKK in my portfolio currently, just 5% at the moment. Will look into buying it more maybe next quarter.  
I like the philosophy and all the research they publish.

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**Author:** ![Kirby](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/k/90db22/32.png) [@Kirby](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Kirby)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 9:26pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/34 "2021-01-28T21:26:49Z")

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I bought some ARKW in early 2020, more than happy with it. I might buy some more next quarter!

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**Author:** ![anonym](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/anonym/32/12687_2.png) [@anonym](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/anonym)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/35 "2021-01-28T21:28:46Z")

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I also have some ARKW, about 5% of my portfolio. Also happy with it. 🙂

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**Author:** ![LeStache](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/lestache/32/3690_2.png) [@LeStache](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/LeStache)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 9:53pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/36 "2021-01-28T21:53:56Z")

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I have a small position of ARKK. The fees are not mustachian but I still bought it. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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**Author:** ![MrCheese](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/mrcheese/32/2500_2.png) [@MrCheese](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/MrCheese)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2021, 10:52pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/37 "2021-01-28T22:52:29Z")

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I have 20% of my stock portfolio in ARKK and it had similiar gains like my VT (mostly due to Tesla)

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**Author:** ![Leonidasgr](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Leonidasgr](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Leonidasgr)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 8:13am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/38 "2021-01-29T08:13:47Z")

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Following the thread above just curious about the fess of the ARKK ETF? Isn’t a bit too much at 0.75% plus progressively increasing…?

Also very roughly (approx.) how much “overlap” does ARKK ETF holdings have with the VT ETF?  
Vanguard VCR (Vanguard Consumer Discretionary ETF) wouldn’t be another option (exposure to Tesla \>10%) with very low fees to be considered about?

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**Author:** ![MrCheese](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/mrcheese/32/2500_2.png) [@MrCheese](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/MrCheese)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 9:16am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/39 "2021-01-29T09:16:33Z")

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> [@Leonidasgr](#):
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> Isn’t a bit too much at 0.75% plus progressively increasing…?

Something I can accept if it consistently outperforms VT.

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**Author:** ![xorfish](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/xorfish/32/451_2.png) [@xorfish](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/xorfish)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 9:38am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/40 "2021-01-29T09:38:27Z")

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Here is a discussion about ARKK manager Cathie Wood.  
"The End of Value” with Cathie Wood and Rob Arnott:

[https://community.rationalreminder.ca/t/the-end-of-value-with-cathie-wood-and-rob-arnott/3870/2](https://community.rationalreminder.ca/t/the-end-of-value-with-cathie-wood-and-rob-arnott/3870/2)

She just seems like a good salesmen, I don’t think I would trust here with my money. She just seems to have no idea about the theory of asset pricing.

A good quote:

> “We’re in the only major business in the global macro economy where customers hate bargains.”  
> -Rob Arnott

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**Author:** ![mabi](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/mabi/32/3568_2.png) [@mabi](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/mabi)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2021, 1:27pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/41 "2021-01-29T13:27:30Z")

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Not invested in any ARK\* funds. Although they are quite interesting I dislike the high TER. My portfolio tilt is more towards small cap and emerging markets and for that purpose I use Avantis funds which have a more reasonable TER of around 0.25-0.35 (see AVUV, AVDV and AVEM).

You might like to watch this video of Ramin where he compares the hype with the bicycle markets in th 19th century, an original comparison.

[![](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/uploads/default/original/2X/3/363699f2d64c1f9d4f466cc84a26f9e555da9b16.jpeg "Should I Buy Index Funds? - Cathie Wood Thinks Not!") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeWLcsgBpgM)

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**Author:** ![Linkov](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@Linkov](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/Linkov)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2021, 1:12pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/42 "2021-02-08T13:12:56Z")

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Hi, I see you can buy this on swissquote although it brings up the disclaimer about US ETFs - do I understand correctly that this is just to cover the broker for not pushing the product and that we are still allowed to buy it?

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**Author:** ![dbu](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/dbu/32/1552_2.png) [@dbu](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/dbu)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2021, 6:32am UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/44 "2021-05-07T06:32:22Z")

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Looking interesting these past few months. 📉

ARK(K) and BRK seem to be almost 2 uncorrelated assets. 😁

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**Author:** ![nabalzbhf](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/nabalzbhf/32/3277_2.png) [@nabalzbhf](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/nabalzbhf)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 7:32pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/45 "2021-05-11T19:32:50Z")

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So in retrospect was ARKK mostly FOMO driven? (I wonder if FOMO is the biggest risks to one’s portfolio).

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**Author:** ![SwissTeslaBull](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/user_avatar/forum.mustachianpost.com/swissteslabull/32/4479_2.png) [@SwissTeslaBull](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/u/SwissTeslaBull)\
**Post date:** [May 11, 2021, 8:00pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/ark-invest-ark-innovation-etf-arkk/4179/46 "2021-05-11T20:00:48Z")

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ARK Innovation ETF’s Top Holdings, % Below High:

1. Tesla $TSLA: -30%
2. Teladoc $TDOC: -54%
3. Roku $ROKU: -38%
4. Square $SQ: -23%
5. Shopify $SHOP: -28%
6. Zillow $Z: -47%
7. Spotify $SPOT: -41%
8. Zoom $ZM: -51%
9. Twilio $TWLO: -36%
10. Coinbase $COIN: -33%

Data: @ycharts

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