And then there is the Finanzausgleich that tries to fix this problem (Finanzausgleich (Schweiz) – Wikipedia). Maybe it would be better not to have this problem in the first place.
I have some news for you… There is other cantons than ZH and ZG in CH.
I have lived both lived in ZH and ZG, and I don’t really know what the heck you are talking about… Everything for free? Special treatment? 
You have been sucking the tit of the Koch brothers for too long my friend.
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Interesting, where are those luxury refugees accommodations that you would not be able to afford? Could you provide your source?
I think ZH still has low taxes when looking at the whole of Switzerland. The city itself has a high Steuerfuss, but at Zürisee it’s different.
By the way, I was looking at the results of referendums, and of course big cities vote more in favor of socialist or leftist reforms. I have no doubt with this referendum it will be the same. Probably Zurich as a city might even vote in favor.
But the Zürisee Gemeinden in the Regions of Horgen & Meilen already vote very differently, much more in line with Zug or Schwyz. It’s almost as if Zürisee was its own canton. If you don’t count Zürisee, the whole canton of ZH becomes much more “red”.
And this is your top location that you couldn’t afford 
? My poor man! If it is worth for you to move to Zug and its very high rent you can afford to live there. Anybody that knows anything about immigration should know that is a very good idea to spread them around rather than park them all at the same place in a cheap neighbourhood.
Top location is Zuriberg, Golden coast, and even me could afford to live there easy. I actually had an apartment at Zuriberg for 1 year.
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:laughs in Basel Stadt:
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You mean you face racism and xenophobia? (Zurich still applies the federal standards on integration, which are much higher than any other country I know of, but yes you don’t have to convince your neighbor that you’re good enough for them).
I had the impression you were against big gov, if yes, giving people rights based on being born inside some imaginary lines should be something you oppose.
Man, you chose to move to Zug to make more money… Cry me a river ! Sounds like you stories about families being kicked out of the center because of 10 social apartments are total fantasy. Weird that the most anti-immigrant people are often immigrant themselves 
Altstetten and Oerlikon are often seen has hell holes by racists because there is “too many immigrants there” so I do not understand your stance… In your world they are full of the rightful pur Swiss blooded people wrongly displaced by the refugees. I myself find those place are just fine, I lived several years in one of those places which are very well connected.
What is so great about living 5 minutes from HB if you work in Zurich? The old town is noisy and house are not modern… It is only useful if you work outside like in Zug? But by your own logic who is stupid enough to live in Zurich close the the HB and go work to Zug by train? Who wants to pay taxes in this socialist hell hole and take the train to work?
I chose one of your argument and try to pin down your logic. It seems to me your are just parroting right wing talking points that are borderline anti-immigration and that do not make any logical sense when you are an immigrant yourself.
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Just out of interest, what is your opinion on the sovereign-citizen movement in the US?
Anyway your point was that you tried to blame “high taxes” of Zurich on immigration and welfare state when in fact Zurich taxes are low by Swiss standard. You know perfectly well why Zug taxes are weirdly low if you know anything about Zug. Blaming the difference on immigration is laughable. Go have a meal at Podium 41 if you want to see Zug welfare state in action.
It would be a better look you if you said you moved to Zug because you wanted to earn more rather than saying that you don’t want to pay for other people welfare.
In Zug your taxes are subsidised for by international corporation, so in a sense you are an immigrant benefiting from taxe welfare.
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Aaaaaah Glencore… Probably one of the ethically worst companies in the world. So basically Zug can lower their taxes, to attract companies which disregard human rights, fuel corruption, have total disregard for work safety, kill squads, strike breakers…
The future of Patron, back to the working conditions of the 19th century. Well for everyone, except the white collars in Switzerland, as long as we do not pay taxes, it is fine.
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Yeah right, some technocrat writes some report from the nice Canton of Zug about his own company. What is that, capitalistic propaganda.
For someone who distrusts everything, fun how you jump on that as a truth.
They only improved (by a little) once they were called out by local and internation NGOs.
But please, read the greenwashing reports.
Sambia : pumping sulfuric acid into the ground, destroying water resources for the communities around
Peru : life expectancy close to their mine lower than everywhere else in the country.
Involved in the Petrobras scandal in Brazl.
Even the US froze assets of top management members
And the list goes on and on and on…
Building a nice hospital and some housing next to it for the annual report is not a solution.
That is exactly what Glencore did and is probably still doing. Promote corrupt governments, taking away other sources of income by polluting the whole fucking landscape, destroying water sources, paying kill squads to kill union workers.
What you see in the report now, is a cosmetic attempt to fix the problems they are at least partially responsible for and profited of.
Example :
You are a farmer
Glencore opens a mine next to you.
You cannot farm anymore because the soil has been fucked up and there is no water anymore. This is all possible because Glencore paid the local and state officials to look the other way.
You cannot leave anymore since you have no income, the only income source remaining (since everything else is not possible), is work in the local mine.
You have to work in the mine, wour feet are unprotected in suluric acid pumped into the ground (that really happened).
Glencore uses strike breakers and kill squads to prevent that problems become public. Once they get public, they build a nice kindergarden, and then hey we will put it in a nice shiny report.
In a nutshell the business practice of Glencore. Certainly there are some variations, but that is it. Canton Zug is profiting of that business practices. If you are okay with that, that is your problem. But don’t be surprised if suddenly people show up on the border and would like to have a decent life.
First, not help destroy local business, social net, and environment in the first place.
What kind of argument is that? Deliberate ignorance is dangerous.
grabs popcorn
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No they are not free to lower taxes because they have ongoing expenses like maintaining the roads, removing the snow in the winter, paying for schools, paying for police, etc. Which are necessary things to attract any corporation in the first place.
Some cantons do engage in taxe competition schemes for corporation though, I have seen stuff like 0% taxes for the first 10 years. Then usually the company just disappear or go somewhere else.
In a race to the bottom, it cannot be several winners on the top of the podium.
Good one, but at that level, it is lost energy.
LOL… I checked the forum this morning and the Covid vaccines thread had 98 unread posts 
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Yes, I posted my meme in the wrong thread.
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