# 3rd pillar investment solution from VIAC

**URL:** <https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/3rd-pillar-investment-solution-from-viac/545>\
**Category:** Banks, Insurances & Third Pillar\
**Created:** [November 22, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/3rd-pillar-investment-solution-from-viac/545 "2017-11-22T16:34:38Z")\
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**Post date:** [March 23, 2019, 12:57pm UTC](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/3rd-pillar-investment-solution-from-viac/545/289 "2019-03-23T12:57:27Z")

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> [@romzzz](#):
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> I am questioning whether to invest in 3a at all. I have not dug into calculations yet, do you have pointers on that subject?

Head over to the [thread](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/the-pillar-3a-tutorial/46) started by nugget (see snippet below for the conclusion). I personally think it’s well worth to invest in 3a due to the tax reduction aspect (free money).

> [@The Pillar 3a Tutorial](https://forum.mustachianpost.com/t/the-pillar-3a-tutorial/46/1):
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> ## take home messages
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> if you decide to engage into pillar 3a, then
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> 1. do it soon / early in your life
> 2. get yourself a low-cost 3a depot account
> 3. fill it with ETFs of stocks and or bonds or passive funds, according to your needs
> 4. deduct it from your taxes
> 5. better have more smaller accounts than one big one, e.g. 5 or so

> [@romzzz](#):
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> I don’t know which makes the most sense for the Swiss 40%: blue chips with SMI or more SPI extra, since I will already be exposed to big caps through VT.

Good point. I wouldn’t call you crazy if you would decide to increase the allocation towards the SPI Extra, given the fact that this will become a small proportion of your overall stash over time anyhow. However, keep in mind that there is no way of knowing if small caps will outperform large caps in the future. I personally prefer to follow the market capitalisation ratios for deciding upon the asset allocation percentages in the spirit of [Vanguard’s approach](https://advisors.vanguard.com/web/c1/fas-investmentproducts/3141/overview) for the VT.

> [@romzzz](#):
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> Same question for the remaining 60%, TER is 0 for All World exCH but it does not include emerging markets.

That’s correct. I was turned off by the 0.09% extra product cost. However, if you are willing to take on the extra cost, the allocation would probably be somewhere around 12% Emerging Markets and 88% World. Multiplied with the 60% this would give you:

**USD:**  
7% Emerging Markets  
53% World ex CH

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